# Mosier put up or shut up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222 "2011-11-07T23:31:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/1 "2011-11-07T23:31:15Z")
Come on Mosier, let’s see these threads where you think I’ve had my argument refuted in 5 posts. Or threads where they’ve been refuted full stop. If that’s the case then let’s see it, it can be a learning opportunity for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/2 "2011-11-07T23:37:32Z")
I, too, was once touched in an inappropriate place by a link. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/3 "2011-11-07T23:43:06Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Come on Mosier, let’s see these threads where you think I’ve had my argument refuted in 5 posts. Or threads where they’ve been refuted full stop. Go search your name; you’ve just described pretty much all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/4 "2011-11-07T23:51:03Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Go search your name; you’ve just described pretty much all of them. Hehe, funny you should turn up on this thread. I would have to say that you are: a) incapable of debating a subject without making hysterical emotional appeals; b) struggle to comprehend/address empirical data that contradicts your ideology. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/5 "2011-11-07T23:59:19Z")
What the fuck are you talking about, dipshit? Link up, or shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/6 "2011-11-08T00:00:00Z")
I refute you thusly; \ ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/7 "2011-11-08T00:10:14Z")
Boomerang pitting 101 ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/8 "2011-11-08T00:11:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > What the fuck are you talking about, dipshit? > > Link up, or shut the fuck up. Here’s the [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14434510&postcount=4) handsome. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/9 "2011-11-08T00:12:34Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Boomerang pitting 101 Right into your nutsack. Ouch! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/10 "2011-11-08T00:13:34Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Hehe, funny you should turn up on this thread. I would have to say that you are: > > a) incapable of debating a subject without making hysterical emotional appeals; > > b) struggle to comprehend/address empirical data that contradicts your ideology. “You are struggle to comprehend/address”… boy, what kind of gibberish talk are you laying on us? ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/11 "2011-11-08T00:16:54Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “You are struggle to comprehend/address”… boy, what kind of gibberish talk are you laying on us? lol. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/12 "2011-11-08T00:28:26Z")
Stones, beards, packets o’ gravel, get 'em while they last . . . ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/13 "2011-11-08T00:30:10Z")
[The left's massively dishonest criticism of Obama - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=624890) - a hyperconservative nobody, used by you as a primary source, exposed in the first five posts. [Rick Perry's Texas Job Miracle - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=625288) - a hyperconservative nobody, used by you as a primary source, exposed in the first five posts. [Southern Europe: Beyond a Demographic Point of No Return - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616724) - a hyperconservative nobody, used by you as a primary source, predicts immigration will destroy europe’s economy, and is subsequently immediately closed by a moderator for lack of original thought. [Are environmentalists cowards on immigration? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=612003) - a hyperconservative anti-immigration group of nobodies used by you as a primary source claims environmentalists are dishonest for allowing immigration. First reply points out there is no such link, and the fifth post shows just how incredibly biased and unreliable the source is. [Census shows whites lose US majority among babies - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614099) - you point out white babies have lost the majority. Not even one person cares enough to respond. Admittedly, your goofy implications defeated your own argument without help from us, but I think it counts. [California and Zimbabwe - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=610124) - hysterical shrieking about how California is the new Zimbabwe (because of Mexican immigration. Yes, really.) exposed for the bullshit it is twice in the first five posts. Strangely, nobody pointed out how ridiculous the hyperconservative nobody you quoted as a primary source was. [Immigrants who enter the country illegally and the costs they impose - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=606579) - immigrants destroy the economy, except when your own source points out they are a net economic benefit, as quoted in the 5th reply. I’m tired. That’s all just on the first page of results from searching for threads started by you. You are a one trick pony, who only ventures from the safety of hysterical anti-immigration arguments for the occasional stab at environmentalists. That said, I was probably out of line to point it out in the Elections thread that got moved to Great Debates. It was a cheap shot that doesn’t belong in that forum, and you were right to bring it here. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/14 "2011-11-08T00:35:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Stones, beards, packets o’ gravel, get 'em while they last . . . Two flats and a sharp please. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/15 "2011-11-08T00:37:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Go search your name; you’ve just described pretty much all of them. That’s the cool thing about **Chen**. He sort of self-refutes, not the least of which when he tries his hand at the Jedi Cite Trick and quotes something that doesn’t say, or even directly contradicts, what he was quoting it to prove. Very handy. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/16 "2011-11-08T00:40:48Z")
Well, if s/he actually had a clue as to what constitutes evidence, s/he would have known enough not to start this thread in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/17 "2011-11-08T01:02:46Z")
Wow. **Mosier** has proven that you are an idiot in one fell swoop. Congratulations! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/18 "2011-11-08T01:41:57Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > That’s the cool thing about **Chen**. He sort of self-refutes Well, at least he’s tidier than most troglodytes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/19 "2011-11-08T01:44:03Z")
**Chen** is still here? Who woulda thunk! ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/20 "2011-11-08T02:11:11Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > [Rick Perry's Texas Job Miracle - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=625288) - a hyperconservative nobody, used by you as a primary source, exposed in the first five posts. Fail **Mosier**! If you read the thread I also cited **Paul Krugman** who made the same argument as the “hyperconservative nobody” about Rick Perry’s bogus Texas job miracle. Less haste, more attention to detail before you make your copy and paste comments. Let’s see whether you’ve done a better job on the other threads… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222.md?page=2)