# Mosier put up or shut up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222 "2011-11-07T23:31:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/61 "2011-11-08T10:22:51Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > No you don’t, you are a bereft of arguments. […] it shows that my arguments are sound. Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic. ---
**Author:** ![mac\_bolan00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/62 "2011-11-08T10:26:09Z")
as a geologist, i’m not worried about CO2. i’m worried about waste of oxygen. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/63 "2011-11-08T10:59:46Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic. Hmmm, ok. How about I just call you a moron. That’s simpler and probably more on your level. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/64 "2011-11-08T11:41:07Z")
Here Chen, you Donning-Kruger effect made flesh you. [This might get you started](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChewbaccaDefense) on the vast topic that is “Why you are a complete tool, and would be even if you weren’t a xenophobic little goatfelcher”. Do not be scared, they use small, everyday words. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/65 "2011-11-08T11:48:30Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > […] it shows that my arguments are sound. If they weren’t you’d be attacking them. Heh. Heh. Heh. Good one. Just FYI, I sometimes engage in attacks on fundie religiosity, global warming denialsm or other kinds of general stupidity and/or total lack of knowledge. It’s not because the arguments for such viewpoints are particularly sound, though. It’s either for the pure entertainment value of bashing the stupid, or, if I’m feeling particularly idealistic, as an attempt to fight ignorance. Guess which of the two categories your arguments fall into 🆒 😃 ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/66 "2011-11-08T11:52:17Z")
Excellent, it is a pit two-fer. Two cretins in joint cretin action. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/67 "2011-11-08T12:13:55Z")
> [@wmfellows](#): > > Excellent, it is a pit two-fer. Two cretins in joint cretin action. Mass pitting of two idiots by a disparate group of posters. A Class Pittage. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/68 "2011-11-08T13:04:52Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > It wouldn’t matter if a thousand people came to support me. It would be of lottery-win unlikelihood, though. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/69 "2011-11-08T15:50:34Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Hehe, funny you should turn up on this thread. I would have to say that you are: > > a) incapable of debating a subject without making hysterical emotional appeals; > > b) struggle to comprehend/address empirical data that contradicts your ideology. I just came in to nominate this bit for the pot-calling-kettle-black Olympics. I guarantee it’ll at least get the silver. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/70 "2011-11-08T18:28:06Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > No, the problem was that you seem to think that anyone who raises immigration in connection with the environment is a nasty nativist. No, the problem is that that appears to be true in most such cases. Not all, perhaps, but most, and certainly in yours. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/71 "2011-11-08T19:59:10Z")
I am picturing **Chen019** as a small,dysfunctional scrawny child, who is all alone on the playground continually banging his head against the monkey bars, insisting he is winning the fight. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/72 "2011-11-08T22:41:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I am picturing **Chen019** as a small,dysfunctional scrawny child, who is all alone on the playground continually banging his head against the monkey bars, insisting he is winning the fight. It’s more like I’m at the zoo the chimps are hurling faeces at me. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/73 "2011-11-08T22:43:26Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > Heh. Heh. Heh. Good one. > > Just FYI, I sometimes engage in attacks on fundie religiosity, global warming denialsm or other kinds of general stupidity and/or total lack of knowledge. It’s not because the arguments for such viewpoints are particularly sound… So what am I factually wrong about? The floor is yours. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/74 "2011-11-09T00:09:19Z")
Jesus, what the fuck is it with the seasonal influx of pseudoscientific racists? Where are they when they’re not shitting up this board? And most crucially, why the hell can’t they stay there? ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/75 "2011-11-09T00:27:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Jesus, what the f_ck is it with the seasonal influx of pseudoscientific r_cists? > > Where are they when they’re not shitting up this board? > > And most crucially, why the hell can’t they stay there? What pseudoscience are you referring to Mr Turnip? When I’m not “sh1tting up this board” I’m doing your mother. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/76 "2011-11-09T01:15:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Jesus, what the fuck is it with the seasonal influx of pseudoscientific racists? > > Where are they when they’re not shitting up this board? > > And most crucially, why the hell can’t they stay there? And why do they all communicate on the level of an average sixth grader? Oh, wait. Right… ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/77 "2011-11-09T01:35:47Z")
Problem 1) Chen’s Paradox **So what am I factually wrong about? The floor is yours.** **What pseudoscience are you referring to Mr Turnip?** _ **Solution** _ 1. It is postulated that “No you don’t, you are a bereft of arguments. […] it shows that my arguments are sound.” 2. Chen states "When I’m not “sh1tting up this board” I’m doing your mother. " 3. Therefore, Chen is factually wrong and pseudoscientific. Quod erat demonstrandum ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/78 "2011-11-09T03:24:50Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > And why do they all communicate on the level of an average sixth grader? Oh, wait. Right… You do realise this is the pit right? Of course, if you thought I was wrong about something substantive in the Great Debates threads then set out what you disagree wtih. Otherwise, I’m not sure what your concern is. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/79 "2011-11-09T05:05:55Z")
Ah, Chen, you’re so self-defeating. You’re like communism, personified as a message board poster. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222/80 "2011-11-09T05:08:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Ah, Chen, you’re so self-defeating. You’re like communism, personified as a message board poster. Thanks Bryan, I have to say that is one of the better insults I’ve come across. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mosier-put-up-or-shut-up/602222.md?page=3)