Love it, but my favorite part was the word “draughtsmen” instead of the more modern “draftsman”. Were you trying to be archaic or is draughtsmen indeed what you would generally use?
Like I said above, or hell maybe it was a different thread, when it’s a religion or a race we’re more familiar with, we can see the nuances. Oh, the Catholics are bombing people, but you see that’s because of X and Y and a few bad apples and Catholics versus Protestants and you can’t judge everyone by the actions of a few and…
Oh, the Muslims are bombing people, because the religion is evil and backwards and corrupt and if they mostly bomb other Muslims well that just means that they are savages and a monolithic group and they should be driven out.
Oh, I got mugged by a white guy! He sucks and I hope he ends up in jail.
Oh, I got mugged by a black guy. Just goes to show that black people can’t be trusted.
Probably generalizing about an entire religion based on the idiocies of a small group of the fundamentalist wing of one of the smaller sects of said religion. Everyone else is doing it, why can’t we?
Also, you’ve pretty much shown that you don’t care much for analogies that others offer, so why get so bent out of shape when your (worse) analogy is shredded and pooh-poohed?
Yes. As described in your link, “hundreds” of German-Americans were interned, out of the largest ethnic group in the U.S. Compare this with 110,000 Japanese and Japanese-Americans. Yeah, I think being white helped a lot.
I don’t think it was intended as a cogent argument since the impression was you didn’t really accept those. Your response to multiple crticism’s of why the Nazi analogy fails was this
even though I explained why it didn’t work. This response is the equivilent of “Is So” and doesn’t give you much credibility when it comes to cogent arguments. then you added
No I didn’t immedialtely dismiss anything. My posts in this thread and the other we were in shows I did my research and looked at the facts concerning the issue.
There is no honest reaction to your hypothetical because you are trying to invent good Nazis.
while simultaneously using their indelible stamp of evil incarnate.
and here you you make the error of inferring that all Muslims hold the same distasteful beliefs. It’s wrong and if you don’t know better by now and include it in your considerations it’s a flat denial of reality and we’re back to the definition of bigotry again.
I’ll even placate you somewhat.
If Nazi’s had been around as a group for hundreds of years and made many positive contributions to mankind, and then one small group of them committed horrible atrocities, would it be insensitive for moderate Nazi’s who had no connection what to the radical few, to build a community center dedicated to peace and and healing cultural differences , as well as more mundane positive advantages for the community, two blocks from the holocaust museum in DC.?
Answer No it would not be, and I’d wager that the Jewish Community as a whole would be reasonable enough to understand that.
But that’s not really what you want is it? You want the horrors associated with the Nazi’s to be the most important thing, just as you seem to want all Muslims to be somehow linked to the actions of a few. Your problemn is the more we make the analogy actually fit the details of the issue the more obvious it becomes that you’re wrong. You can’t make any reasonable analogy work, which is pribably why you avoided any I offered and avoided my questions.
On a news site someone commented that’s it’s not about rights or the Constitution , it’s about basic fairness and decency to the familes of 9/11 victims.
No sir, there is no basic fairness and decency invlovled in objecting to this building. Fairness and decency demands just them opposite. It’s a shame so many people will allow themsleves to be manipulated into believeing otherwise.