# Most Americans Still Think the Healthcare Bill Did Not Go Far Enough, Rather Than Being an Overreach **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 25, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009 "2010-09-25T14:57:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/21 "2010-09-27T01:02:43Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > They turned them on with Fox Gnus and crazy rhetoric . Now they can’t turn them off. They can not dial down the craziness or they risk losing them. The Repubs have created a monster that could eat them. The real fear to me is that the GOP will consist of crazy people but just enough low information voters to not know/care how crazy and irrational the GOP is becoming. Hopefully the GOP destroys themselves. I think they realized they’ve alienated latinos so badly that they started pushing to remove the 14th amendment from the constitution to take away the right of millions of latinos to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/22 "2010-09-27T01:14:35Z")
There was a thread recently discussing how a majority of Americans were OK with “gays” in the military but did not want “homosexuals” in the military (or maybe it was the other way). My most humble opinion is that talking about polls means absolutely nothing UNLESS we look at the actual questions asked in the poll. Even then, they mean only a shade above nothing–they just illustrate the ever-changing mood of people on a particular subject. (And all of the above assumes the poll is completely random–non-random polls are worse than worthless.) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/23 "2010-09-27T01:15:55Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I think they realized they’ve alienated latinos so badly that they started pushing to remove the 14th amendment from the constitution to take away the right of millions of latinos to vote. Huh? ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/24 "2010-09-27T01:56:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@sleeping](#): > > > > Thanks for that link. The problem is that the Fox poll is the only one listed on the page that actually asked people whether they want more reform, and not just whether they approve or disapprove of the bill–and it does so ambiguously: > > The dichotomy is not “too far / not far enough,” but “not far enough / oppose law as it stands,” which involves 2 opinions are not mutually exclusive (as evidenced by the fact that 2% said “yes” to both). > > That’s easy to get around by just adding 2% to the 36% to get 38% who think the law didn’t go far enough. And that is still consistent with the cite you gave in this thread which said about 40%. Yes, but the point is that the two choices are \*not \*mutually exclusive, and some people might choose option 1 or 2, while actually supporting option 3. This is just poor formatting and framing. > [@](#): > > Those are not very good polls. They ask if people want to require employers to provide health insurance. Wow, 75% of people want that. Well, who wouldn’t, since they don’t say what the consequences will be. They might as well be asking if people want their employers to give them a car or a pony. > > How about asking if they want employers to provide health insurance if it means they will take a 10% cut in pay (or something along those lines)? “Would you favor or oppose the national government offering everyone the choice of buying into a government administered health insurance plan – something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get – that would compete with private health insurance plans?” “There is proposed federal legislation that gives any American, regardless of age, the option of joining the Medicare program. Americans who choose this option would share the cost of the coverage with their employer through increased Medicare payroll deductions, instead of paying private health insurance premiums. Do you favor or oppose this legislation?” > [@spifflog](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > Those are not very good polls. They ask if people want to require employers to provide health insurance. Wow, 75% of people want that. Well, who wouldn’t, since they don’t say what the consequences will be. They might as well be asking if people want their employers to give them a car or a pony. > > This. > > This poll is irrelevant because it asks people if they want free money. Well dunh. > > I’ll conduct a poll and ask the American people if they want their taxes cut by 50%. I wonder what they’ll say? 1. Most polls don’t specify the consequences of adopting a law. 2. “There is proposed federal legislation that gives any American, regardless of age, the option of joining the Medicare program. Americans who choose this option would share the cost of the coverage with their employer through increased Medicare payroll deductions, instead of paying private health insurance premiums. Do you favor or oppose this legislation?” 60% [favor](http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/PollMemo.pdf), 27% oppose, 12% not sure ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/25 "2010-09-27T06:06:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > The GOP has been promising to repeal Roe v Wade ever since that ruling was made. They had 4 years of control of the WH and Congress just recently, and what happened? > > They discovered that Roe v. Wade was a Supreme Court decision and repealing it required a 2/3rds majority of both houses, plus a 3/4ths majority of state legislatures. > > Or five sufficiently committed justices and a new case. In any case, “Second Amendment remedies” have been rather effective at deterring physicians from performing abortions. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/26 "2010-09-27T11:31:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > The GOP has been promising to repeal Roe v Wade ever since that ruling was made. They had 4 years of control of the WH and Congress just recently, and what happened? > > They discovered that Roe v. Wade was a Supreme Court decision and repealing it required a 2/3rds majority of both houses, plus a 3/4ths majority of state legislatures. > > Or five sufficiently committed justices and a new case. Or that “repealing” it would require a constitutional amendment, which is in fact the route that various committee members have tried unsuccessfully (you’re being much too literal for your own good once again, **Bricker** ). But the real answer is that they knew, and know, they’d alienate more people than they attracted if they did any more than that, that it would fail and they’d look even worse, and that it would take away a rallying cry for their base. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/27 "2010-09-27T13:29:57Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > They discovered that Roe v. Wade was a Supreme Court decision and repealing it required a 2/3rds majority of both houses, plus a 3/4ths majority of state legislatures. > > > > Or five sufficiently committed justices and a new case. > > In any case, “Second Amendment remedies” have been rather effective at deterring physicians from performing abortions. Really? So how do the ~1M abortions get performed in the US every year? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/28 "2010-09-27T13:55:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > They discovered that Roe v. Wade was a Supreme Court decision and repealing it required a 2/3rds majority of both houses, plus a 3/4ths majority of state legislatures. > > > > Or five sufficiently committed justices and a new case. > > Or that “repealing” it would require a constitutional amendment, which is in fact the route that various committee members have tried unsuccessfully (you’re being much too literal for your own good once again, **Bricker** ). Isn’t that exactly what he provided, the threshold for a constitutional amendment? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/29 "2010-09-27T15:25:07Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Hopefully the GOP destroys themselves. I think they realized they’ve alienated latinos so badly that they started pushing to remove the 14th amendment from the constitution to take away the right of millions of latinos to vote. Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment would not take away anyone’s right to vote. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/30 "2010-09-28T00:15:33Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@foolsguinea](#): > > > > In any case, “Second Amendment remedies” have been rather effective at deterring physicians from performing abortions. > > Really? So how do the ~1M abortions get performed in the US every year? They don’t in red states. Physicians who do it are shot in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/31 "2010-09-28T17:34:37Z")
> [@sleeping](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > AP Poll: Repeal? Many wish health law went further > > > > WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul has divided the nation, and Republicans believe their call for repeal will help them win elections in November. But the picture’s not that clear cut. > > > > A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1. > > … > > > > Overall, 30 percent favored the legislation, while 40 percent opposed it, and another 30 percent remained neutral. > > > > Those numbers are no endorsement for Obama’s plan, but the survey also found a deep-seated desire for change that could pose a problem for Republicans. Only 25 percent in the poll said minimal tinkering would suffice for the health care system. > > > > Brian Braley, 49, a tech industry worker from Mesa, Ariz., wants Washington to keep its hands off. “I think it’s a Trojan horse,” Braley said of the health care law. “It’s a communist, socialist scheme.” > > … > > It may well satisfy people who share Braley’s outlook if Republicans succeed in tearing out what they dismiss as “Obamacare” by the roots. But GOP leaders would still find themselves in a quandary. > > > > Republicans “are going to have to contend with the 75 percent who want substantial changes in the system,” said Stanford political science professor Jon Krosnick, who directed the university’s participation. > > > > [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100925/ap\_on\_re\_us/us\_health\_care\_poll/print](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100925/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_poll/print) > > Back in [February](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12195856&highlight=public+option#post12195856), I pointed out that polls indicated that 64% of Americans supported a Medicare-for-All single payer plan, and 56% to 68% supported a public option. Obviously, this has not changed. > > First, this once again confirms the fact that most Americans (75%) want the government to regulate the health insurance industry to a greater extent (or even abolish it altogether). The remaining 25% basically correspond to the birther/Tea Partiers. > > Second, this really puts into doubt whether the GOP could realistically repeal the healthcare bill, as their “Pledge” [promises](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/23/reichert-steve-king/). > > So, this presents the GOP with a dilemma: they can either go against the majority of Americans and repeal the bill (or repeal and replace it with a free-market-based version), or they can satisfy their base and repeal it. The former route would seemingly encounter widespread opposition; the latter would cost them their base. > > What will they do if they regain the House? And an even greater percetage are more concerned with the economy than they were with health care reform. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/32 "2010-09-28T17:55:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > There was a thread recently discussing how a majority of Americans were OK with “gays” in the military but did not want “homosexuals” in the military (or maybe it was the other way). Not hard to understand. Gays are a lot more fun to be around than homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/33 "2010-09-28T18:56:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > > > Hopefully the GOP destroys themselves. I think they realized they’ve alienated latinos so badly that they started pushing to remove the 14th amendment from the constitution to take away the right of millions of latinos to vote. > > Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment would not take away anyone’s right to vote. How short sighted, and vile. American children of undocumented immigrants just don’t count? I take you’d prefer a state for them just like the children of Immigrants in Israel. > **[BBC News - Israel's immigrant children fight deportation](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8524723.stm)** > > The BBC's Katya Adler reports on Israel's controversial plan to deport children born to migrant workers. > [@](#): > > Five little girls giggle and scream with delight as they chase each other round the playground, their pigtails flying as they run. > > The girls’ parents come from the Philippines, Thailand and Sudan but they sing, shout and chat together in Hebrew. > > Like her friends, bright-eyed, eight-year-old Noah Mae was born in Israel. This is her home, she says. > > I’ve come to meet her at a community centre run by the Israeli Scouts movement in southern Tel Aviv. > > She proudly shows me her schoolbook, where she got top marks for her Hebrew writing and spelling. > > Here parents might come from the Philippines but she feels truly Israeli. Hebrew is the language she dreams in, she tells me. > > Pressure groups > > But Israel’s government now wants Noah Mae to leave. Here it’s illegal for migrant workers to have children. > > Hundreds of families face expulsion from Israel this summer. More than 1,000 children, including Noah Mae, expect to be deported at the end of their school year. > > Noah May’s mother, Emily Cabradilla, together with a number of Israeli pressure groups, is trying to fight the government’s plan to include the children in a crackdown on illegal immigrants. > > She said it broke her heart when she heard the news. "Noah Mae has never been to the Philippines. How can I tell her she’s going home? She hardly speaks a word of Tagalog. > > “She says she won’t leave Israel. ‘Mama,’ she said to me, ‘I am Israeli. I was born here and I will stay here.’” Republicans want to import this crap to America.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/34 "2010-09-28T20:00:32Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment would not take away anyone’s right to vote. > > How short sighted, and vile. American children of undocumented immigrants just don’t count? > > I take you’d prefer a state for them just like the children of Immigrants in Israel. > [BBC News - Israel's immigrant children fight deportation](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8524723.stm) > > > [@](#): > > > > Five little girls giggle and scream with delight as they chase each other round the playground, their pigtails flying as they run. > > > > The girls’ parents come from the Philippines, Thailand and Sudan but they sing, shout and chat together in Hebrew. > > > > Like her friends, bright-eyed, eight-year-old Noah Mae was born in Israel. This is her home, she says. > > > > I’ve come to meet her at a community centre run by the Israeli Scouts movement in southern Tel Aviv. > > > > She proudly shows me her schoolbook, where she got top marks for her Hebrew writing and spelling. > > > > Here parents might come from the Philippines but she feels truly Israeli. Hebrew is the language she dreams in, she tells me. > > > > Pressure groups > > > > But Israel’s government now wants Noah Mae to leave. Here it’s illegal for migrant workers to have children. > > > > Hundreds of families face expulsion from Israel this summer. More than 1,000 children, including Noah Mae, expect to be deported at the end of their school year. > > > > Noah May’s mother, Emily Cabradilla, together with a number of Israeli pressure groups, is trying to fight the government’s plan to include the children in a crackdown on illegal immigrants. > > > > She said it broke her heart when she heard the news. "Noah Mae has never been to the Philippines. How can I tell her she’s going home? She hardly speaks a word of Tagalog. > > > > “She says she won’t leave Israel. ‘Mama,’ she said to me, ‘I am Israeli. I was born here and I will stay here.’” > > Republicans want to import this crap to America.☹ To repeat my statement: Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment would not take away anyone’s right to vote. If you believe any part of your post addressed my statement, please identify where it did. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/35 "2010-09-29T22:15:09Z")
OK, Bricker, not _take away_ the franchise from one who already has it, but _deny_ it to some who don’t have it yet. We already have laws that deny naturalization to immigrants, & thus the vote, in conflict with the spirit of the Fourteenth. The nativists have tried for a century to rules-lawyer it so that you can live here disenfranchised because they’re just protecting the national culture by delaying naturalization. Now they’re trying to change the rules themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/36 "2010-10-05T00:57:29Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment would not take away anyone’s right to vote. > > How short sighted, and vile. American children of undocumented immigrants just don’t count? > > I take you’d prefer a state for them just like the children of Immigrants in Israel. > [BBC News - Israel's immigrant children fight deportation](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8524723.stm) > > > [@](#): > > > > Five little girls giggle and scream with delight as they chase each other round the playground, their pigtails flying as they run. > > > > The girls’ parents come from the Philippines, Thailand and Sudan but they sing, shout and chat together in Hebrew. > > > > Like her friends, bright-eyed, eight-year-old Noah Mae was born in Israel. This is her home, she says. > > > > I’ve come to meet her at a community centre run by the Israeli Scouts movement in southern Tel Aviv. > > > > She proudly shows me her schoolbook, where she got top marks for her Hebrew writing and spelling. > > > > Here parents might come from the Philippines but she feels truly Israeli. Hebrew is the language she dreams in, she tells me. > > > > Pressure groups > > > > But Israel’s government now wants Noah Mae to leave. Here it’s illegal for migrant workers to have children. > > > > Hundreds of families face expulsion from Israel this summer. More than 1,000 children, including Noah Mae, expect to be deported at the end of their school year. > > > > Noah May’s mother, Emily Cabradilla, together with a number of Israeli pressure groups, is trying to fight the government’s plan to include the children in a crackdown on illegal immigrants. > > > > She said it broke her heart when she heard the news. "Noah Mae has never been to the Philippines. How can I tell her she’s going home? She hardly speaks a word of Tagalog. > > > > “She says she won’t leave Israel. ‘Mama,’ she said to me, ‘I am Israeli. I was born here and I will stay here.’” > > Republicans want to import this crap to America.☹ At least in Israel Little Noah Mae could convert to Judaism and obtain the legal right to be in Israel ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/37 "2010-10-08T08:01:11Z")
I can’t speak to the poll, but… I thought Obama was somewhat ineffective here. He kind of said, “hey congress! do \*something!!!” Eventually he finally gave in “OK well clearly you have no creative ideas at all, let’s at least make the current system more friendly and less evil (preexisting condition etc)”. And then he relented and said “well I guess universal coverage won’t make it this round, but hey, maybe you can make some sort of provision where anyone can buy the congressional member plan at the same price” (big whoop!!). And then there’s was some other stuff that was kind of random. Might as well just go to UHC with specific provisions to avoid the tropes of bad UHC. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009/38 "2010-10-08T13:16:49Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Might as well just go to UHC with specific provisions to avoid the tropes of bad UHC. That will take another term to do. Meanwhile, new tropes will be coined and they’ll be on everybody’s lips in a month. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-americans-still-think-the-healthcare-bill-did-not-go-far-enough-rather-than-being-an-overreach/555009.md?page=1)