To those needing haircuts: MrsRico scissors mine but not yours. I’m due for another soon to avoid the Bozo look.
Sacrificing a full beard for face masks, I did my own close shave with an Aldis electric hair trimmer, half the price of dog trimmers at Walmart. I stood on the back porch looking into a mirror as a breeze wafted my trimmings into the forest. With wraparound mirrors and MrsRico not available, I could have done my scalp for that punk vibe.
Let’s see, Trimp has broken all fifteen (smash!) ten commandments, exhausted all seven deadly sins, and is now working at violating provisions in all constitutional articles. Some amendments are easy pickings. Expect troops quartered in your home any time now.
I’m a cop, and I see a bunch of people breaking the law. My goal is to get people to stop breaking the law, and I have a bunch of tools at my disposal, including:
Tell them to knock it off.
Issue a written citation.
Arrest.
I tell them to knock it off, and most of them do so. Great! I’m persuaded that they’ll stop breaking the law.
One of them insists he’s not breaking the law and argues with me. I’m not persuaded he’s gonna stop, obviously.
So I decide to issue a citation. That’s going to require knowing who he is. But he refuses to show me ID. I can’t do that one.
That’s where the cuffs come in.
His crime was trespass. He refused to let milder remedies work, so the cop escalated to more severe remedies.
Well, yes. But if a cop has the right to arrest me and chooses not to do so, and then changes his mind because it looks like I’m not going to comply with a lesser means of persuasion, I’m not sure it matters whether I am standing there trying to persuade the cop that I’m right, or standing there saying I’m right without trying to persuade the cop.
No police officer was ever able to issue a citation from the beginnings of the common law until the mid-20th century because of the lack of photo ID?
What you are saying is that if I leave my wallet in my house to walk over the park, I face an increased chance of arrest, that is unless I be a good little boy and surrender my free speech rights.
But to your other point, if he takes it so far as to say “I’m not trespassing. I don’t believe you, and I’m not leaving so fuck you and that your little citation too” then he does leave the officer with no other option but to arrest him. He has engaged in his free speech right yet he continues to violate the law.
That is not what happened here. The officer just asked for ID. He is not required to show ID, nor is there a suggestion that the officer wanted to issue him a citation, but the undisputed facts are that this guy was doing the same thing a lot of others were. He was detained for exercising his right to question the police officer’s actions. They made an unlawful demand of him and arrested him in front of his six year old daughter for not complying with their unlawful demand and for playing ball with his daughter in a public park.
OP asked for MOST BLATANT government overreach. If this is the worst it gets, I’ll not work myself into a frenzy.
The PD apologized for the officer’s “overreach”. But was it? The news story says, “Police arrived soon after, Mooney said, telling him and others in the area to leave because the park was closed.” The park was closed. That is trespass.
It continues, “Mooney said he told officers that he was familiar with the posted rules and believed he and his family were in compliance and practicing proper social distancing. He said he refused to provide his identification when officers asked for it because he had not broken any law.” He argued over a police order. I have found it very unwise to argue with police when ordered to act, even if obeying causes damage, as I have experienced. Refusing a legitimate police order is a sure path to handcuffs.
Numerous morons have gathered in defiance of emergency proclamations and failed to disperse when ordered. Shooting those contagious scofflaws would likely be overreach. Would a blast from a firehose be more reasonable?