# Most Clueless Depiction of Hippies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583 "2009-07-28T20:00:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/41 "2009-07-29T23:05:40Z")
How about Donald “Oddball” Sutherland and his tank crew in _Kelly’s Heroes_? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/42 "2009-07-29T23:11:36Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > How about Donald “Oddball” Sutherland and his tank crew in _Kelly’s Heroes_? They were proto-hippies, though… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/43 "2009-07-29T23:34:52Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > I can not resist noting that one of the hippies in that episode (Adam) (the one whose line “I’m going to clap my hands and jump for joy - I got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy” will forever be remembered and the one who is sitting furthest from Spock in this picture > [The Way to Eden - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_to_Eden) (behind the bald guy)) grew up to grew up to play the “hard-charging general” type in many movies (including Austin Powers). Weird. Yeah, but even within _Star Trek_, the _leader_ of the space hipppies (Skip Homeier, the aforementioned bald guy) played a motherfuckin’ _Nazi!_ (“Patterns of Force”). Whoa, man! I just blew my mind! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/44 "2009-07-30T02:20:45Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > How about Donald “Oddball” Sutherland and his tank crew in _Kelly’s Heroes_? They were more beatniks or even proto-beatniks. I just saw _Kelly’s Heroes_ again this week. I love that movie. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/45 "2009-07-30T03:49:29Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > They were more beatniks or even proto-beatniks. I just saw _Kelly’s Heroes_ again this week. I love that movie. I seem to recall Sutherland saying that he was deathly ill while filming that movie. He had a very high fever and doesn’t remember most of it. So he wasn’t so much a proto-beatnik as delirious. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/46 "2009-07-30T04:28:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, but even within _Star Trek_, the _leader_ of the space hipppies (Skip Homeier, the aforementioned bald guy) played a motherfuckin’ _Nazi!_ (“Patterns of Force”). > [@Wikipedia](#): > > Homeier has been retired since the middle 1980s. In the same way I’ve been “retired” since my first acting class at age 17. (Skippy, I see you finally realized that you lacked any talent whatsoever. Most of us figured it out sooner.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/47 "2009-07-30T12:58:58Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I seem to recall Sutherland saying that he was deathly ill while filming that movie. He had a very high fever and doesn’t remember most of it. So he wasn’t so much a proto-beatnik as delirious. Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/48 "2009-07-30T13:17:45Z")
Wasn’t there an episode of Gomer Pyle where he encountered a small band of hippies? I think one of them was named “Moon Dog” or something like that. I remember they all dropped acid and sang “Blowin In The Wind”. OK, I may be misremembering the dropping acid part… ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/49 "2009-07-30T14:28:19Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Be cool, man. That groovy link was posted by another righteous brother earlier, and I didn’t want to hash his mellow. Dude, don’t bogart the hash. It helps us all be mellow. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/50 "2009-07-30T15:32:01Z")
Half the episodes of Hawaii 5-0 had hippies in them, Steve McGarrett knew how to deal with them. Book em. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/51 "2009-07-30T15:36:10Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Wasn’t there an episode of Gomer Pyle where he encountered a small band of hippies? I think one of them was named “Moon Dog” or something like that. I remember they all dropped acid and sang “Blowin In The Wind”. > OK, I may be misremembering the dropping acid part… And they painted the USMC panel van in wild “hippy” colors, thereby winning the best camouflage contest. (I bet this is the last memory I have as age takes away all the important stuff.) ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/52 "2009-07-30T15:45:22Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > The Dragnet episode with [Blue Boy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zgIzqgxFU). I hesitate to even bring it up, lest a certain poster show up and start debating that this is a 100% accurate portrayal of LSD usage. That’s one of the most boring acid parties I’ve ever seen. Though I have to say it’s not one of the worst portrayals I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/53 "2009-07-30T15:46:42Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves. Actually, the name Moriarty (as in “Dean Moriarty”) is one of the reasons I thought of Oddball as a Beatnik, rather than a hippie. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/54 "2009-07-30T15:50:40Z")
Regarding the Gomer Pyle episode: The Colonel thought they were disguised Marines and laughed it all off. Rob Reiner was one of the Hippies. And, as always, Vietnam was never mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/55 "2009-07-30T16:26:52Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Actually, the name Moriarty (as in “Dean Moriarty”) is one of the reasons I thought of Oddball as a Beatnik, rather than a hippie. To be honest, I had no clue who Dean Moriarty was and I had to look it up, but yes, that is even more reason to consider them proto-beatniks and not Hippies. I knew/know hippies and I have seen TV hippies. That tank crew was not hippies. 🙂 That reference does make far more sense than the Sherlock Holmes reference I never quite got. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/56 "2009-07-30T21:17:32Z")
I win. It’s Otto Preminger’s **Skidoo** and starring Jackie Gleason, Carol Channing, Groucho Marx. Trailer: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tFO-D3TInGg/hqdefault.jpg "5mtl.com presents the theatrical trailer for "Skidoo"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFO-D3TInGg) Jackie Gleason’s Trip [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAZtb8XGso) ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/57 "2009-07-31T00:53:20Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > I win. > > It’s Otto Preminger’s **Skidoo** and starring Jackie Gleason, Carol Channing, Groucho Marx. … > … Jackie Gleason’s Trip > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAZtb8XGso](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAZtb8XGso) and Austin Pendleton in a short cameo! I’d advise against dropping Vitamin A in a high security prison, but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/58 "2009-07-31T01:29:26Z")
Yeah, it’s not even a cameo. He gets a ton of screen time and multiple scenes. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/59 "2009-07-31T03:02:00Z")
What about _Beyond the Valley of the Dolls_? I wasn’t there, but man that looked like one groovy scene. “It’s my happening, baby, and it freaks me out!” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583/60 "2009-07-31T13:09:53Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Regarding the Gomer Pyle episode: The Colonel thought they were disguised Marines and laughed it all off. Rob Reiner was one of the Hippies. And, as always, Vietnam was never mentioned. 😕 How could a sitcom, in the 1960s, about U.S. Marines, not mention Vietnam?! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-clueless-depiction-of-hippies/504583.md?page=4)