# Most common reason to be Pitted Appears to be Dishonesty? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 13, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422 "2021-07-13T20:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/201 "2021-07-18T23:18:05Z")
Right let’s not drive away yet another right wing poster. Dr Deth is one of the smartest ones left. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/202 "2021-07-18T23:26:48Z")
There are plenty of echo chambers available if I only wanted to hear from one point of view. The conservatives on SDMB have often tended to be the best of their ilk, being the ones who manage to communicate despite being a voice decisively in the minority. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/203 "2021-07-19T00:41:12Z")
Where did you get the idea I am right wing? I have been a Democrat all my life. I was a delegate-nominee for Senator Henry Jackson for President. I virulently despise trump and trumpism. I am anti racism, and pro ACLU. I support a woman’s right to choose. I support _ **LGBT+** _ rights. I have said several times on this very board that I do not care what restroom you wish to use, as long as you do not make a mess and wash your hands. I am pro freedom of the press and speech. On this board I strongly supported Joe Biden, and even donated. As said below > [@ZosterSandstorm](#): > > I am arguing for opinions that 50% or more of Biden-voting registered Democrats agree with, but I’m still subject to the dissent = conservative = bad cycle because the clique here can’t understand that anyone could possibly disagree with them without being basically a Nazi. Except for me it is more like 90%+. So, I guess this is a perfect example of what I have said- it you are not 100% a member of the chorus- “we agree, we agree” , you are the enemy. Only one opinion is allowed here, it is now 100% an echo chamber. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/204 "2021-07-19T00:55:58Z")
You’re being awful defensive about a compliment. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/205 "2021-07-19T00:58:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I guess this is a perfect example of what I have said- it you are not 100% a member of the chorus- “we agree, we agree” , you are the enemy. Only one opinion is allowed here, it is now 100% an echo chamber. I’m not sure how you get that out of @Chingon wanting you to keep posting. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/206 "2021-07-19T01:17:21Z")
Well, I appreciate the “smartest” part, but not the conservative part. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/207 "2021-07-19T02:17:03Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > As has been said previously, whether something is “racist” or not is such a broad and subjective thing anymore, and it is always someone’s opinion (I suppose unless someone literally advocates for the dictionary definition of racism) then a cite does no good. I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this statement. But i see a common reason for conflict to be a disagreement as to what “racism” is and how to deals with it. I believe the common wisdom among liberals right now is that we are all a little racist, and those who aren’t (fill in disadvantaged race here) sometimes inadvertently commit micro-aggressions because we just aren’t aware that we are doing so. Whereas the common wisdom among conservatives is that racism is a horrible and intentional evil that only horrible people commit. So a conservative will say something that is hurtful to (insert disadvantaged race here) and a liberal will call him out on it, expecting him to say, “oops, I’m sorry, i shouldn’t have said that.” But the conservative hears, “you are an evil person attempting to put down (idrh).” So the conservative, who probably had no racist intent, takes umbrage and gets defensive. And then the fight begins. To tie it back to the topic of this thread, then the conservative insists he isn’t racist, and the liberals accuse him off lying. Meanwhile he accused the liberals of lying about him being racist. And both sides are telling the truth as they see it, and both are the other side apparently dishonest. So it gets ugly. And there were are, people pitted for dishonestly. In many cases due, basically, to a misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/208 "2021-07-19T05:33:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So, not that I expect this clear and unambiguous statement to sway many partisans… but I left because of precisely the factors suggested by Heffalump. I believe you and I’m pretty far left. I’ve said it before, if I was a conservative on this board I wouldn’t tell anyone. What a lot of posters didn’t get, or didn’t like, about @Bricker was that he wanted to talk about legalities. He didn’t care what your opinion of a law should be, he cared about what the law was. Since some posters, not all, didn’t want to discuss things on that level and **Bricker** didn’t want to participate in side arguments, some people just got pissed at him. Just like some posters now get pissed at conservatives because they can’t convince them to change their minds on a topic. I thanked God when politics was split off from GD, and I thanked Him again when Discourse gave us the option to hide entire forums. I don’t think I ever agreed with **Bricker** on anything, I don’t think I ever talked to him at all. But I do vehemently disagree with him on one thing: _Friends_ was not the greatest sitcom on television. The correct answer is _Cheers_. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/209 "2021-07-19T07:46:03Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > **Miller** is generally recognized as an exceptionally easygoing mod There’s no way to prove/disprove this. General comments about mods are not allowed on this board. You can Pit mods for their posts as posters and you can bring a grievance for a specific action in ATMB. But there’s no place on the board allowed to give general impressions of mods. That’s one of the reasons that the snark forums went underground. I’m good with the rule that hamstrings general comments on mods because it would get too distracting to see general comments about every mod for every complaint. But it’s also not possible to make any general conclusions about how mods are seen because general comments about them are all not in public, except the positive comments. \ > [@puzzlegal](#): > > So a conservative will say something that is hurtful to (insert disadvantaged race here) and a liberal will call him out on it, expecting him to say, “oops, I’m sorry, i shouldn’t have said that.” If that’s the case, shouldn’t the liberal respond with “pardon me (handing over the Grey Poupon), here’s the response _I_ expected to see here.” Not go apeshit and start posting about them in another forum with the most disgusting insults they can imagine, over and over again. This thread reminds me of when Reddit was trying to get rid of r/fatpeoplehate. The arguments were that people had to hate on fat people because it was a benefit to society. If there was not a place to hate on fat people, the hate would spread to all of Reddit and no one wanted that, right? And besides, sometimes the haters got through to some of the fat people who then lost weight. Reddit got rid of r/fatpeoplehate. Nothing happened except the place had a lot less hate, and people didn’t get hit by the crossfire as much. I haven’t really decided whether it’s a good idea or not to get rid of the Pit because I’m still reading and weighing the arguments, but so far, I will say that the arguments in favor of keeping it look weak to me. The Pit used to be my old stomping grounds so the idea of it does have some sentimental value. > [@mordecaiB](#): > > _Friends_ was not the greatest sitcom on television. The correct answer is _Cheers_ . That’s just crazy talk! [Throwdown!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friends-vs-cheers-which-is-better/946801) ---
**Author:** ![ZosterSandstorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e0b2c6/32.png) [@ZosterSandstorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZosterSandstorm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/210 "2021-07-19T07:54:50Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Ah, the false equivalency gambit! I’ll just point out that there is currently an extensive discussion about **Hari Seldon** ’s warning to **Pinecone** about what seemed to be a partisan right-wing post that most posters disagreed with, but which appeared to be fully within the rules. Essentially everyone agreed that the warning was wrong, and it was withdrawn. So there is objective evidence that most posters here are fair-minded and will support the right to express a disagreeable or contrarian viewpoint, **unless it violates community standards**. It’s nice that this particular warning was absurd enough for some people to call attention to it. Who is going to go though that mod’s 2000 previous instances of dubbing any dissent from his own politics “threadshitting” or “trolling” and rescind those? What is going to change to prevent this from continuing to happen in the future past the point of the people in that thread having the energy to care? ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/211 "2021-07-19T08:13:27Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > **Miller** is generally recognized as an exceptionally easygoing mod Of course he seems easygoing, and I think he probably is, but he mods the Pit, where pretty much anything goes. I about had a heart attack when I saw him mod note someone a few weeks ago. Before that I think the last time I saw **Miller** mod someone was back in the days when he had to say " Saying fuck in the Pit is not allowed, no warning issued." > [@ZosterSandstorm](#): > > It’s nice that this particular warning was absurd enough for some people to call attention to it. Who is going to go though that mod’s 2000 previous instances The only other ones I knew of other than what I posted in the thread about **Hari** , were when he didn’t get that a poster was making a joke and he noted them for it. I didn’t ever check back to see what happened but I assume he changed them since posters were pointing out his mistake in the thread. But Velocity [links](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-moderation/946768) to one in this thread that I hadn’t seen before. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/212 "2021-07-19T09:11:12Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > The only other ones I knew of other than what I posted in the thread about **Hari** , were when he didn’t get that a poster was making a joke and he noted them for it. I didn’t ever check back to see what happened but I assume he changed them since posters were pointing out his mistake in the thread. But Velocity [links](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-moderation/946768) to one in this thread that I hadn’t seen before. **Hari** also gave me a warning that was later rescinded. I think it was given partly because he thought a sarcastic comment I made was serious, and that plus the fact that he objected to my views made him decide I must be trolling. I do think being bad at detecting jokes and sarcasm is kind of a problem for a mod, and they need to remember that having different views from those prevailing on this board, even extremely different views, is normal and common, and not in itself evidence of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/213 "2021-07-19T09:29:07Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > What a lot of posters didn’t get, or didn’t like, about @Bricker was that he wanted to talk about legalities. He didn’t care what your opinion of a law should be, he cared about what the law was. Since some posters, not all, didn’t want to discuss things on that level and **Bricker** didn’t want to participate in side arguments, some people just got pissed at him. Except that, often, his talking about “legalities” _was the side argument_ in a thread where “what the law should be” was already the main subject of discussion. Back on topic, and in relation to other comments above, I’ll note that: 1. A lot of the “this board persecutes conservatives” claims tend to involve posters who make outrageous or indefensible statements and then use the backlash as evidence of persecution. I’m not saying that this board isn’t often hostile to right-wing viewpoints, but the frequency with which accountability for actual words posted is dodged using this gambit is pretty high. 2. Although free debate is good, when the proposition from one side is “Black/trans/etc people are effectively second-class citizens who are to blame for any discrimination they receive - change my mind” it’s not exactly reasonable to treat it as a purely academic debate, especially for members of the groups under discussion. As such, suggesting that we should just calmly discuss whether something is bigoted or not can easily stray into sealioning. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/214 "2021-07-19T09:49:37Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I believe the common wisdom among liberals right now is that we are all a little racist, and those who aren’t (fill in disadvantaged race here) sometimes inadvertently commit micro-aggressions because we just aren’t aware that we are doing so. Whereas the common wisdom among conservatives is that racism is a horrible and intentional evil that only horrible people commit. While this is true, there are also plenty of progressives, both on this board and off it, who will be sure to tell everyone how horrible and unacceptable racists are, and that it would be better to suffer 1,000 more years of Trump than make any kind of concession towards them (okay, that’s an exaggeration - but I’m sure you know what I’m talking about). There appears to be a certain amount of equivocation going on here, where racism is both universal and unavoidable - something you shouldn’t be upset about being accused of - and also the worst thing in the world, with racists deserving of public shunning and being left to starve in the streets. There’s also the issue that common conservative views around personal responsibility, the limitations of government etc, are fairly frequently seen as racist in themselves by progressives. It should be obvious that conservatives (or any other group, really) are not going to instantly change their minds and apologise just because someone on a message board disagrees with them ideologically. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/215 "2021-07-19T11:06:18Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > There’s also the issue that common conservative views around personal responsibility, the limitations of government etc, are fairly frequently seen as racist in themselves by progressives. It should be obvious that conservatives (or any other group, really) are not going to instantly change their minds and apologise just because someone on a message board disagrees with them ideologically. Thing is that many conservatives, specially in the US, are falling for Orwellian propaganda about what less conservative, centrists or liberals are actually up to. The problem is then when hard conservatives do things based on deceptive propaganda. As a meta example, currently many conservatives in power are showing that the move against Critical Race Theory was, as me and others suspected, a ruse to remove any educational efforts to teach about the real history of America. And to remove teachers and professors that realize how important the teaching of past injustices are. It is not a coincidence that is mostly affecting the few minorities that did become teachers and professors. > **[Texas Senate Passes Bill to Remove Required Lessons on Civil Rights Movements...](https://www.theroot.com/texas-senate-passes-bill-to-remove-required-lessons-on-1847313111)** > > The bill, which comes after Texas signed a law banning teachings on critical race theory, is currently stalled in the state's House of Representatives. This is more appalling when one remembers that many of those politicians and the right wing media attempted to hide behind Martin Luther King by falsely claiming that he would be against CRT or to be in support of hiding history because it “causes divisions”. Now, one has to remember also that there is precedent for governments that apologised for past misdeeds, I think many will have to apologize when in a better future (I’m an optimist, sue me) less ignorant leaders will recognize the injustice that is being committed right now. It will be very likely a new generation of politicians that will realize that ignorance like that was harmful. The current conservatives in power are doing precisely the thing that they claim to be correcting. Cancelling history, discriminating against minorities in academia. Enhancing systemic racism, and becoming perfect examples of how ideology can be twisted to turn people that are not racist into supporters of policies that mostly do what actual racists want. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/216 "2021-07-19T11:42:15Z")
> [@ZosterSandstorm](#): > > Who is going to go though that mod’s 2000 previous instances of dubbing any dissent from his own politics “threadshitting” or “trolling” and rescind those? Got one link? Should be easy if there are 2000 to choose from ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/217 "2021-07-19T11:49:46Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Now, one has to remember also that there is precedent for governments that apologised for past misdeeds, I think many will have to apologize when in a better future (I’m an optimist, sue me) less ignorant leaders will recognize the injustice that is being committed right now. Oh, I don’t need an apology for affirmative action; striking it down would suffice. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/218 "2021-07-19T11:52:12Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > So a conservative will say something that is hurtful to (insert disadvantaged race here) and a liberal will call him out on it, expecting him to say, “oops, I’m sorry, i shouldn’t have said that.” > > If that’s the case, shouldn’t the liberal respond with “pardon me (handing over the Grey Poupon), here’s the response _I_ expected to see here.” Perhaps we read different forums, but i see exactly that happen a lot. Well, not exactly that, because both sides are now angry and hardening their stance. But i really do see a lot of instances of the liberals saying, “you could have apologized for saying xyz, but you are doubling down.” I think @DemonTree is more on-point, especially in the part I’ve bolded > [@DemonTree](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > I believe the common wisdom among liberals right now is that we are all a little racist, and those who aren’t (fill in disadvantaged race here) sometimes inadvertently commit micro-aggressions because we just aren’t aware that we are doing so. Whereas the common wisdom among conservatives is that racism is a horrible and intentional evil that only horrible people commit. > > While this is true, there are also plenty of progressives, both on this board and off it, who will be sure to tell everyone how horrible and unacceptable racists are, and that it would be better to suffer 1,000 more years of Trump than make any kind of concession towards them (okay, that’s an exaggeration - but I’m sure you know what I’m talking about). There appears to be a certain amount of equivocation going on here, where racism is both universal and unavoidable - something you shouldn’t be upset about being accused of - and also the worst thing in the world, with racists deserving of public shunning and being left to starve in the streets. > > **There’s also the issue that common conservative views around personal responsibility, the limitations of government etc, are fairly frequently seen as racist in themselves by progressives. It should be obvious that conservatives (or any other group, really) are not going to instantly change their minds and apologise just because someone on a message board disagrees with them ideologically.** This is sometimes the case. And sometimes it’s that common conservative views around the roles of the sexes are sexist, etc. (IMHO) You do often end up with both sides thinking the other is lying about them, though. Re your first paragraph, about the… idealistically pure progressives who want to ban everyone else from speaking… I know one of them, and he doesn’t post on this board. While i certainly agree that such people exist, i don’t think that’s a common dynamic here. I think the conservative not immediately agreeing with the liberal, and then both sides getting angry and yelling past each other is far more common here, and is often a precursor to a pitting. ---
**Author:** ![ZosterSandstorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e0b2c6/32.png) [@ZosterSandstorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZosterSandstorm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/219 "2021-07-19T11:53:28Z")
GIGOBuster showing up in an ATMB thread to copy and paste his 4000th two page word salad about how critical race theory is good and inevitably attracting no staff attention for it, when people who disagree with him are not even allowed to discuss critical race theory _in the debate forum_, is definitely proving a relevant point here, just not the one he thinks it is. When this thread is closed in 36 hours for “going off topic” as if it had a will of its own, that point will continue to be proven. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/220 "2021-07-19T11:56:41Z")
> [@ZosterSandstorm](#): > > GIGOBuster showing up in an ATMB thread to copy and paste his 4000th two page word salad about how critical race theory is good and inevitably attracting no staff attention for it, when people who disagree with him are not even allowed to discuss critical race theory _in the debate forum_ , is definitely proving a relevant point here, just not the one he thinks it is. I haven’t read every ATMB thread, but I don’t recall 4000 GIGOBuster posts about CRT in ATMB. Did you report those posts? Got links to any? Anyways, you were banned from the subject not because you’re a conservative, but because you kept making personal attacks like claiming that GIGOBuster was an illiterate foreigner or something. You really still don’t understand the difference there? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422.md?page=12)