# Most controversial video game.....EVER. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 17, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143 "2003-09-17T15:06:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/21 "2003-09-18T00:46:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ryle Dup \* > \*\*There’s some company making a 9/11 game. Someone sent me a link earlier, but I can’t find it anymore. I’m sure someone has seen this and can provide more details. \*\* [http://www.selectparks.net/911survivor/](http://www.selectparks.net/911survivor/) It’s an Unreal Tournament 2003 mod, technically. From a New York Times Article: [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/17/arts/design/17GAME.html?8hpib](http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/17/arts/design/17GAME.html?8hpib) > [@](#): > > It was created as an art-class project by three students at the University of California, San Diego, John Brennan, Mike Caloud and Jeff Cole. They said their goal was to reinterpret a historic moment by transplanting it to the medium with which they were most familiar: computer games. Inured to the distant televised images of Sept. 11, they hoped an immersive, interactive version would restore an immediacy to the day’s horrors. Mr. Cole, who examined photographs to reconstruct the scene, said, “The more I delved into it, the more personal it became.” ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/22 "2003-09-18T01:31:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duke of Rat \* > \*\*A friends son was playing Grand Theft Auto, and he would jump out of a stolen car and use a baseball bat on hookers and take their money. I thought it was kinda over the top for a video game, but it seems to be the norm now days. \*\* Nowadays? Hardly. In Super Mario Bros (1985?), you stomp on turtles until they’re dead. In Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out (same timeframe) you pummel an opponent with jabs and hooks, beating him unconscious. Games have been violent since the beginning… the only difference is the quality with which the violence was rendered, and the consequences of the violence. Mario isn’t punished for animal cruelty, he’s rewarded. At least in Grand Theft Auto, the police chase after you when you kill people! ---
**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/23 "2003-09-18T02:03:19Z")
Excellent point you raise there **Mr2001**. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/24 "2003-09-18T02:21:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NurseCarmen \* > \*\*I like the message board quip “Will there be a god mode?” \*\* Of course, but I think the game will end right after you use it…😉 I love the catchline "After 2000 years, He’s ready to cast the first stone… "😃 ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/25 "2003-09-18T02:21:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ryle Dup \* > \*\*There’s some company making a 9/11 game. Someone sent me a link earlier, but I can’t find it anymore. I’m sure someone has seen this and can provide more details. \*\* I’ve played it, its called MS Flight Simulator 2002. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Raven\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@The\_Raven\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven_1)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/26 "2003-09-18T02:36:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \* > \*\*Ah yes, Lamprey Systems and their marvelous software. I believe the baby game was “Shock Da Monkey” and the program that let you talk to Jesus was “MacJesus”. Lamprey, the brainchild of Robert Carr, also made “Operation Rescue”, where the object was to kick fetuses to a demon, who would eat them. And there was “Mormonoids From The Deep”, the game in which you battled the Angel Moroni and Marie Osmond’s psychotic twin sister. \*\* Howyadoin, So, do we need ANY MORE proof that Mac users are amoral dope-sucking anarchist freaks? I mean the Linux types are pretty harmless in their parents basements, but these Mac bastards are like AntiChrist On-Line or something! -Rav WARNING: This post may contain humor and/or sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/27 "2003-09-18T02:49:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duke of Rat \* > \*\*A friends son was playing Grand Theft Auto, and he would jump out of a stolen car and use a baseball bat on hookers and take their money. I thought it was kinda over the top for a video game, but it seems to be the norm now days. \*\* Ever play Vice City? And I remember the old flight sim for the Mac, terrible graphics. I used to try and get the plane _between_ the towers and I never thought anything of it. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/28 "2003-09-18T07:39:38Z")
A dialogue, with apologies to all christians, and God: Q. Excuse me, Mr Typical Christian, would you buy a computer game based on the bible? A. Wow, of course! That’d be great. There should be more games based on the bible. Q. This one? A. AAH!! That’s disgusting? Q. What? What’s wrong? Oohhhh… I get it. You should have said you hadn’t read the Old Testament. Sorry, I just never have quite got the OT/NT thing. Come to think of it, there was an java OT text adventure game somewhere. You could do things like get your father drunk and have sex with him, or sacrifice your son to God. For that matter, I’d love to see a genuine Jesus game. Jesus certainly rocks, it just needs more thought to develop a game around the theme of converting people to loving their neighbour, as you can’t do it as a shoot 'em up. (Well, unless you just ZAP people converted with a Hand of God, but I’m so not going there.) It’s have to be a graphical adventure game of some sort, imho. Or maybe it could be based around all the apostles too. ---
**Author:** ![Erroneous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71c47a/32.png) [@Erroneous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erroneous)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/29 "2003-09-18T12:36:08Z")
It’s not Jesus, but I’m suprised no one’s mentioned [Super 3D Noah’s Ark](http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=22) yet. > [@](#): > > All five of the levels in Super Ark of 3D Noah are eerily similar to those of Castle Wolfenstein 3D. It must have been a pain in the ass for Noah to build five fucking stories of brick dungeon into his ark and still make it float like a feather. > … > Defining Moment: Repeatedly rubbing Noah up against a random wall to hear him emit an orgasmic groan. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/30 "2003-09-18T13:27:36Z")
Reminds me of **Gandhi II** from **UHF**. _he’s back… and this time… he’s mad!_ _he’s a one man wrecking-crew, but he also knows how to party!_ _No more Mr. Passive Resistance. He’s out to kick some butt. This is one bad mother you don’t want to mess with._ ---
**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/31 "2003-09-18T17:47:41Z")
Based on the graphics and the gibs, it looks like a Quake 1 mod, to me. Lots of cool smiting potential, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/32 "2003-09-18T22:26:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shade \* > **Jesus certainly rocks, it just needs more thought to develop a game around the theme of converting people to loving their neighbour, as you can’t do it as a shoot 'em up. (Well, unless you just ZAP people converted with a Hand of God, but I’m so not going there.)** Too late… Rise of the Triad did it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/33 "2003-09-18T22:31:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr2001 \* > \*\*Too late… Rise of the Triad did it. 😉 \*\* In fact, that’s what I had in mind. I loved that mode, especially the relaxed yet powerful yawning type sigh he occasionally made, and the way the hand glowed, and zapped everything. But maybe I misremember - I don’t recall any evidence of converting people as opposed to blowing them into constituent nucleotides. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Phoenix\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phoenix_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/34 "2003-09-18T22:50:32Z")
That 9/11 game looks like it could be interesting. Dunno. There was some mod in the works to let you play the role of the Columbine shooters, a while back. I’m not even going to bother running up a search for it… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/35 "2003-09-18T23:42:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Shade_ > But maybe I misremember - I don’t recall any evidence of converting people as opposed to blowing them into constituent nucleotides. Well, you could argue that you’re converting them into bubbling puddles of goo… ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/36 "2003-09-19T00:34:05Z")
Surprised nobody has mentioned “Custer’s Revenge” for the old Atari 2600. You play a completely naked General Custer, and try to maneuver around various obstacles (cacti etc.) to the other side of the screen, where an equally naked tied-up Indian woman awaits your lustful advances. Let’s just say those blocky old-fashioned graphics leave very little to the imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/37 "2003-09-19T00:43:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*Well, you could argue that you’re converting them into bubbling puddles of goo… \*\* Let he who is without sin be the first to convert him to a bubbling puddle of goo… Maybe we’re not being creative enough with Jesus’ arsenal. OK, he could do anything, but he seemed to have a style. Imagine if a sinner’s blood turned instantly to wine. Remember Jesus originated Hexen’s porelator (cf. the posessing demons). And they weren’t quite Jesus’, but we could do the road to damascus thing. And perhaps turn a few people into pillars of salt. ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/38 "2003-09-19T02:39:25Z")
I’d like to see a tournament fighting game, a la Mortal Kombat, where the deities and important figures of the world’s major faiths and mythologies battle it out elimination style, that way you could offend many cultures at once. The Hindu pantheon, could take on Mohammad or even Allah. Just trying to imagine the cool character designs for Kali, Ganesh, and Shiva. Old Testament God (vengeful and angry) could fight New Testament God (personafied by Jesus I guess) they could both perform major moves or multi-hit combos once the energy bar for their Holy Spirit topped out. Or even a God fight between the various forms of the same God with a roundrobin battle of Yahweh (Torah), God (full OT), Jesus (NT) and Allah (Koran) for maximum Judeo-Christian-Muslim fighting action. Budda might be underwhelming as a fighter, but he could withstand lots of punishment if locked into meditation with his zazen fighting stance. The Norse, Egyptian, and Greek (or Roman) gods could try withstanding the elemental assaults of Gaia. As bonuses for success at the game you could unlock Satan and various other demons like Beelzebub, Baal, etc. Or tons of awesome oni, tengu, and creatures from Japanese folklore. Or the animal spirits of Native American shamanism. Sure lets offend everybody. But wait, wait, what’s that? Who just turned up to fight them all with a phalanx of lawsuit filing attorneys to have them all removed from public - why it’s Madalyn Murray O’Hair! Throw in some figures from Wicca, Voodoo, and Black Magic or anybody else I missed. I know I missed Sikhism for example. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/39 "2003-09-19T03:00:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shade \* > \*\*For that matter, I’d love to see a genuine Jesus game. Jesus certainly rocks, it just needs more thought to develop a game around the theme of converting people to loving their neighbour, as you can’t do it as a shoot 'em up. \*\* Oh, you could do a fighting game. The A button turns his left cheek to the attacker, the B button turns his right cheek to the attacker. The end boss could be Pilate, and you could try to avoid going down to the mat for a 39-count. Or the conversion part could involve standing along the Damascus Road and tossing rocks at your persecutors. But then, I learned the gospels from Martin Scorcese, so perhaps I have a distorted viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143/40 "2003-09-19T04:10:49Z")
I recently read about an upcoming first-person shooter which will have levels based on recent battles in Iraq (and elsewhere, if we have any). They will release a new level every other week or so, and charge subscription fees. Apparently they already have a level based on the attack on Qusay and Uday Hussein. That will probably get a lot of negative attention. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-controversial-video-game-ever/202143.md?page=3)