# Most dated (and obscure) tech reference in song

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [November 30, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-dated-and-obscure-tech-reference-in-song/975774 "2022-11-30T04:18:27Z")\
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The DLR Band song Counter-Blast (from 1999) is fairly dated, asking if someone is online:

Tell me, tell me, tell me  
Who’s your favorite page  
I’m gonna fax you  
Into the atom age

My engine searching  
Like a harpoon  
Like a monsoon  
In your chat room  
Who are you  
Are you online

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A few years ago a local radio station had a call-in contest, playing a snippet of that song and asking callers to name the 10,000 things that still exist that the song refers to. The first wise-ass caller said “Stupid Maroon 5 songs.” I loved that answer.

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Astrolabes? I’ve known about them for years now. 😴

How many people nowadays know what a **rotograveur** was/is?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Wq_AG4QPeqA/maxresdefault.jpg "Easter Bonnet") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_AG4QPeqA)

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> [@terentii](#):
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> How many people nowadays know what a **rotograveur** was/is?

_Rotogravure_ is one of Ringo Starr’s post-Beatles solo albums, so fully qualifies as an excellent example of dated and obscure technology. Apparently its named after something.

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> [@Banksiaman](#):
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> so fully qualifies as an excellent example of dated and obscure technology

Obscure, but hardly dated. It’s still in widespread use. It’s just that hardly anyone thinks about how things get printed in high volume. And it’s no longer used as a metonym for a color newspaper page.

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[quote=“terentii, post:63, topic:975774”]  
Astrolabes? I’ve known about them for years now. 😴

How many people nowadays know what a **rotograveur** was/is?  
Astrolabes? [/quote]  
Yep. I knew what they were too. Just hadn’t seen one in real life, except for a sloppily built fake for sale at a RenFair once.

Off top of head, a _rotogravuer_ is a type of printing press, invented ~1800s. I don’t recell more about them than that. Etymology suggests it was a roller-type so continuous operation versus the earlier mechanical presses that worked by stamping motions.

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The **Guardians of the Galaxy** films might have refreshed the younger generations awareness of cassette tapes and making recordings at home. But has **Bow Wow Wow** ’s debut single **C.30 C.60 C.90 Go** become an obscure reference?

TCMF-2L

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> [Car Phone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-iAV9YOqY&t=11s). It’s a parody of [Convoy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss), which itself refers to a dated tech reference (C.B. radios).

Another Car Phone song:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wKYhUnky2IQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Car Phone") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYhUnky2IQ)

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Way back in 1966 or '67, my dad and I went on a tour of a newspaper printing plant. We saw how the linotype operator produced the text used to create the paper-mache molds with which the cylinders for the rotograveur were cast.

At least, that’s how I remember it. I’m sure the process is completely automated today with computers doing everything.

**NOTE:** I was in college the first time I heard about a rotograveur. The secretary in the PolSci department, who was old enough to be my grandmother, explained the word to me in the context of _ **Easter Parade** _.

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If we’re doing car models, “Beep Beep” by the Playmates is about a Nash Rambler, which Wikipedia informs me were made between 1950 and 1954. Quite a small production window there. The song came out in 1958.

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Put another nickel in  
In the nickelodeon  
All I want is having you  
And music, music, music

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“John Henry”:

“A man ain’t nothin’ but a man,  
But before I let your steam drill beat me Down,  
I’d die with a hammer in my hand. Lord, Lord.  
I’d dies with a hammer in my hand.”

Then there’s “Hello Central Give me Heaven” from 1901:

“Hello central give me heaven  
For I know my mother’s there  
And you’ll find her with the angels  
Over on the golden stair”

There’s probably an old folk song out there somewhere about the automated loom. And if we are counting sailing ships, about a thousand songs.

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I just thought of two Robert Johnson songs that fit the thread: “Terraplane Blues” about an old car model, and “Phonograph Blues” about a very dated technology to play music.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> If we’re doing car models, “Beep Beep” by the Playmates is about a Nash Rambler, which Wikipedia informs me were made between 1950 and 1954. Quite a small production window there. The song came out in 1958.

I’m guessing Wikipedia says that because Nash ceased to exist as a company in 1954. But American Motors, the company formed when Nash and Hudson merged, continued making Ramblers. They weren’t technically “Nash Ramblers” anymore, but a lot of people probably still called them that (like how people continued calling Ram trucks “Dodge Rams” long after Chrysler spun off Ram as a separate brand).

> **[Rambler (automobile)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_(automobile))**
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> Rambler is an automobile brand name that was first used by the Thomas B. Jeffery Company between 1900 and 1914.
> Charles W. Nash bought Jeffery in 1916, and the name was reintroduced to the automobile marketplace by Nash Motors from 1950 through 1954. The "Rambler" trademark registration for use on automobiles and parts was issued on 9 March 1954 for Nash-Kelvinator.
> Nash merged with the Hudson Motor Car Company to form American Motors Corporation (AMC) in 1954. The Rambler line of cars contin...

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Yes, American Motors kept making the Rambler for quite a few years. The first car I can remember our family had, when I was a small child, was a Rambler. This was in the late 60s.

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An intentional dated reference from Somewhere That’s Green from the Little Shop of Horrors movie.

Between our frozen dinner  
And our bedtime, nine-fifteen  
We snuggle watchin’ Lucy  
On our **big, enormous twelve-inch screen**

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> [@Author\_Balk](#):
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> On our **big, enormous twelve-inch screen**

That’s a truly huge smartphone you have there. Must be one of the new fancy folding-screen ones. 😉

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Some uses are deliberately ironic.

It I’m surprised no one has mentioned trucker slang and CB radio. Amazingly, my father had one installed in his car for long trips. I never saw the appeal myself. But presumably few Dopers are truckers or fans of old country.

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> It I’m surprised no one has mentioned trucker slang and CB radio.

“Convoy” has been mentioned.

Here:

> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> [Car Phone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-iAV9YOqY&t=11s). It’s a parody of [Convoy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss), which itself refers to a dated tech reference (C.B. radios).

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> It I’m surprised no one has mentioned trucker slang and CB radio.

Is there some rule that whenever someone says “I’m surprised no one mentioned X”, X actually will have been mentioned in that thread?

> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> [Car Phone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-iAV9YOqY&t=11s). It’s a parody of [Convoy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss), which itself refers to a dated tech reference (C.B. radios).

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