# Most.  Depressing.  Pop or rock song.  Ever.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296 "2005-11-03T15:20:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/121 "2005-11-05T18:22:31Z")

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Elvis Costello is the King of The Depressing Song. **Shipbuilding** rips me to shreds, and the songs about his grandmother, **Veronica** and **That Day is Done** are very sad as well.

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/122 "2005-11-05T21:48:54Z")

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I’ll second **John Prine’s** _Sam Stone_, and checking those old Depressing Song threads, I’ll stand by my previous assertation that **The Handsome Family’s** _The Woman Downstairs_ still has some of the most depressing lyrics I have ever heard…  
Chicago is where  
the woman downstairs  
starved herself to death last summer.

Her boyfriend Ted  
ate hot dogs and wept  
with the gray rats out on the fire escape…  
although pretty much anything by The Handsome Family would qualify

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/123 "2005-11-06T00:13:09Z")

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More folk/country than pop…but it’s hard to go wrong with Cold Missouri Waters. Written by Canadian James Keelaghan, I like the version by Cry Cry Cry

[Lyrics](http://www.cowboylyrics.com/tabs/cry-cry-cry/cold-misssouri-waters-6787.html).

The story is based on a true account of smoke jumpers as told in [Young Men and Fire](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226500624/104-3736708-8295949?v=glance&n=283155&n=&s=books&v=glance).

"On Aug. 5, 1949, 16 Forest Service smoke jumpers landed at a fire in remote Mann Gulch, Mont. Within an hour, 13 were dead or irrevocably burned, caught in a “blowup”–a rare explosion of wind and flame. "

The song is told from the viewpoint of Dodge, who survived the fire by building a “ring of fire” around himself.

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> I don’t know why I just thought it  
> I struck a match to waist high grass running out of time[LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]

Actually, as the name suggests…the entire Cry, Cry Cry album is full of sad stories.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/124 "2005-11-06T00:44:26Z")

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> [@Nic2004](#):
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> And honey, I miss you  
> And I’m bein’ good  
> And I’d love to be with you  
> If only I could [LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]_Honey_  
> **Bobby Goldsboro**

I’ll second this one. It’s the one I thought of as soon as I read the title of the OP. After hearing this song one time, I could never listen to it again. I would hit the radio button as soon as it came on, and if I was somewhere in public where it was playing, I would leave until it was over. Sure, it’s cloying and sentimental and it’s meant to have that effect, but it really drives home what it must be like to experience the loss of such a unique and delightful person who brought so much brightness and joy into your life. You just know he’ll never find that kind of person or that kind of happiness again.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/125 "2005-11-06T01:07:17Z")

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[_Wonderful_](http://www.lyricsnet.net/lyrics.php?id=68) by **Everclear** , about a divorce, from a child’s point of view.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/126 "2005-11-06T02:26:09Z")

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> [@beagledave](#):
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> More folk/country than pop…but it’s hard to go wrong with Cold Missouri Waters. Written by Canadian James Keelaghan, I like the version by Cry Cry Cry
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> [Lyrics](http://www.cowboylyrics.com/tabs/cry-cry-cry/cold-misssouri-waters-6787.html).
> 
> The story is based on a true account of smoke jumpers as told in [Young Men and Fire](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226500624/104-3736708-8295949?v=glance&n=283155&n=&s=books&v=glance).

I love that book. I really do. Now I need to find this album.

Another folk/country song that I love I just remembered.

Leslie Fish is a rather prominent filk singer - that is she sings what are basically folk song on an SF or fantasy tilt. She’s also been doing, for several years, now, a series of albums where she records various of Kipling’s poems to music. It works out to be a very effective way to listen to Kipling, I think. My favorite one of hers in that vein is [Birds of Prey March](http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/verse/volumeXI/birdsofprey.html). The music is a cheerful marching tune. The lyrics are so bitter and bleak… I keep wondering why the various war protestors haven’t started trying to get this poem more well known.

> [@Kipling](#):
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> Chorus:
> 
> Cheer! An’ we’ll never march to victory.  
> Cheer! An’ we’ll never live to ’ear the cannon roar!  
> The Large Birds o’ Prey  
> They will carry us away,  
> An’ you’ll never see your soldiers any more!

I’ve also remembered a song that [Trout Fishing in America](http://www.troutmusic.com/) covered: Prom Night in Pigtown. Another cheerful song, with a very depressing reality hovering over the celebration.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/127 "2005-11-06T04:13:40Z")

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There are many in The Smiths’ catalog, but I think two win out:

**There Is A Light That Never Goes Out**

**That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore**

I had a hard time in my first job out of college, missed home, and generally thought life sucked. I listened to Blind Melon’s **Galaxie** and not long after Shannon Hoon died, so that song is particularly depressing as well.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/128 "2005-11-06T04:46:24Z")

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For a recent release, and an anthem for middle-age burnout, how about _Childish Things_, by James Mc Murtry:

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> Now, my boy, he goes like a house on fire  
> He’ll never burn out and he’ll never retire [LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]I don’t believe in heaven, but I still believe in ghosts
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> I’ve put away childish things.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/129 "2005-11-06T05:12:54Z")

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**Hurt** - Sung by Johnny Cash.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/130 "2005-11-06T05:27:49Z")

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common people by pulp . even more depressing covered by William Shatner.

also

rocketman by elton john

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/131 "2005-11-06T08:55:07Z")

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> [@Analogue Skywalker](#):
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> common people by pulp

I was thinking of that song when I was reading this thread–in particular, this passage:

_You’ll never live like common people  
You’ll never do what common people do. [LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]_

It’s not only depressing but also very angry.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/132 "2005-11-06T09:17:13Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> **Hurt** - Sung by Johnny Cash.

I never cared much for the NIN version of this song, but when I heard that cover it really tore me up. I could safely say this is probably _the_ most depressing song I have ever listened to myself, and it’s even worse if you’re watching the video. Yet you can’t tear your eyes or ears away from it.

A good chunk of everything Pink Floyd ever did is pretty depressing, but _Comfortably Numb_ and _Wish You Were Here_ are the two that kill me.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/133 "2005-11-06T09:38:47Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> “The band Played Waltzing Matilda” by The Pogues.

Just a nitpick, this song was composed and originally recorded by Eric Bogle, an ex-pat Scotsman in Aus actually. I’ve heard many other renditions, including The Pogues, but I still reckon Boges does it best. He does “depressing” really well. Heh, some might say he’s made it into an artform. 😉 Check out:

**A REASON FOR IT ALL**  
\*Summer smiling on the city, it’s another lovely day in Sydney  
Sunshine pouring down like honey in a golden water fall  
But in the room where Claire is dying, no sunshine sends the shadows flying

[LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]\*  
Back to the OP and away from Eric Bogle…_anything_ by Dory Previn is wrist-slashingly depressing. 😛

John Hiatt…“She Don’t Love Nobody”, particularly the version by Nick Lowe.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/134 "2005-11-06T09:59:18Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I was thinking of that song when I was reading this thread–in particular, this passage:
> 
> _You’ll never live like common people  
> You’ll never do what common people do. [LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]_
> 
> It’s not only depressing but also very angry.

its the point in the song that he realizes that the girl is slumming it with him. it hurts me

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/135 "2005-11-06T10:03:45Z")

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Oh, one other Tori Amos number: “Playboy Mommy.” It’s hard to write an uplifting song about having a miscarriage, and, well, the thing isn’t uplifting. She does have a little bit of a sense of humor about it, which I think only serves to make the proceedings sadder.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/136 "2005-11-06T10:08:57Z")

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Being young and not having experienced (and really, not even being able to imagine experiencing) any sort of melancholy older-age retrospective, I think one of the saddest songs I’ve heard is Brand New’s “Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis” which describes the emptiness of how women use men to feel accepted and men, knowing this, are taking advantage of it. Unlike losing a child or lamenting past regrets, I actually relate to this…

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I will lie awake  
and lie for fun and fake the way I hold you  
let you fall for every empty word I say.  
\*

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/137 "2005-11-06T15:52:15Z")

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If I ever decide I’d like to kill myself, but I need just a little more motivation, I’d listen to Wasted Time, from the Eagles’ Hotel California album. Yeah, that ought to do it.

Not nearly as bad but still depressing: Jackson Browne’s In The Shape of a Heart.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/138 "2005-11-07T15:20:51Z")

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> [@AugestWest](#):
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> How about Hank Williams’ **You Win Again**?
> 
> \*This heart of mine could never see  
> What everybody knows but me  
> Just trusting you was my great sin  
> I just can’t go, Lord, you win again  
> \*
> 
> **The Chao** brought up the Grateful Dead… How about **Black Peter**? A song from the perspective of a guy on his deathbed?  
> _Just want to have  
> A little peace  
> To die…_

Ooof. Yeah that one gets me too. Come to think of it, the Dead had a lot of sad songs in their repetoire.

\*\*Wharf Rat \*\* always tugged at my heart strings. When I used to volunteer at a homeless shelter, I knew a lot of _August Wests_.

A few others that are sad,

**He’s Gone  
Black Throated Wind  
Brokedown Palace  
Black Muddy River**

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/139 "2005-11-07T21:42:38Z")

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2 songs by Natalie Merchant need to be mentioned. The first is _Eat For Two_ which is sung by a girl who has become pregnant after a one night stand. The second is _Dust Bowl Days_ which is sung by a young single mother who is losing the fight to support herself and her 2 children. Both songs are sad making and the women who are singing them are very depressed. They depress me but maybe I just get depressed easily.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-depressing-pop-or-rock-song-ever/329296/140 "2005-11-07T22:36:08Z")

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I submit _ **Keep Me in Your Heart for a While** _, from the last album Warren Zevon recorded after announcing he was dying of lung cancer:

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Shadows are falling and I’m running out of breath  
Keep me in your heart for awhile  
If I leave you, it doesn’t mean I love you any less  
Keep me in your heart for awhile [LYRICS DELETED BY MODERATOR]  
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Hold me in your thoughts, take me to your dreams  
Touch me as I fall into view  
When the winter comes, keep the fires lit  
And I will be right next to you

…

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