# Most durable weapon/object in comics?

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**Created:** [April 21, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683 "2006-04-21T20:32:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/41 "2006-04-23T04:31:57Z")

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What about the cursed sword the Black Knight (of the Avengers, for clarity) carried? Wasn’t that indestructable?

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/42 "2006-04-23T04:35:34Z")

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I think the Spear of Destiny might be a contender. They can’t get rid of that thing no matter how hard they try. You can even throw it into the sun, it still comes back.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/43 "2006-04-23T05:21:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Love Rhombus]  
What about the cursed sword the Black Knight (of the Avengers, for clarity) carried? Wasn’t that indestructable?  
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The [Ebony Blade](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony_Blade) - and Wikipedia certainly thinks so.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/44 "2006-04-23T08:22:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
The Surfer esapes the space-time barrier in the first issue of one of his series (mid-80s I think) after Ben Grimm figures out that the barrier affects the board and not him. The Surfer transforms the board into energy and re-creates it once he’s outside the barrier. Which doesn’t necessarily mean he can create a new board from scratch but IMHO strongly implies it.  
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This is what I was thinking of. By the way, Marshall Rogers should have had Joe Rubinstein inking him all the time, instead of having Terry Austin. Huge difference.

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> Excalibur: Sword of stone.

Actually, sword from the Lady of the Lake.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/45 "2006-04-23T09:11:47Z")

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In Camelot 3000, Excalibur is the Sword in the Stone. In the Arthurian mythos, the Sword in the Stone and Excalibur are different. In the film _Excalibur_, the two swords are still different, but the Sword in the Stone is still a Sword of Power

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**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/46 "2006-04-23T13:58:40Z")

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Further in _Excalibur_, the sword is broken by Arthur’s pride, when he calls upon it to defeat Lancelot, who was a better swordsman…requiring the Lady of the Lake to “reforge” it. So I would say that the sword that Arthur has in Camelot 3000 is the more powerful, as it cleved a nuke, detonated it and survived the explosion to empower another.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/47 "2006-04-23T23:50:33Z")

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The armor of the Shining Knight in DC is also reportedly indestructible.

Then there’s Inertron, the super-material that used to show up in Legion stories.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/48 "2006-04-24T00:10:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Askia]  
While I will be happy to give your friends all kinds of props for out of the box thinking, I recall at least two storylines where Linus’ blanket was partially destroyed before returning “good as new” to Linus. 1) There was a storyline where Schultz had Lucy cut up Linus’ blanket and fashioned it to a kite. When Linus asks, “How could you do this?” Lucy replied, throwing up her hands, “It was easy!” where it was promptly blown away by the wind. This storyline went on for weeks a Linus tried to recover his blanket. Readers of PEANUTS wrote in letters claiming to have spotted Linus’ blanket/kite in real life in states as far away as New Mexico and Colorado! Eventually someone found it and mailed t back to Linus. 2) There’s at least one sequence where Lucy uses Linus’ blanket to make a three piece suit for Snoopy. Linus cries in horror: “You used my blanket to make a suit?” Lucy calmly replies, “Not A suit. TWO suits!” whereupon Woodstock appears with an identical miniature suit. Other than a vague recollection of Linus sucking on his thumb while holding Snoopy’s sleeve, I don’t recall that much about that storyline.  
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There was another strip in which Lucy tore the blanket into, well, strips. Linus reconstructed the blanket into a crosshatched pattern, stuck his thumb in his mouth, and let out a heartfelt _sigh_.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/49 "2006-04-24T14:34:01Z")

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[QUOTE=foolsguinea]

Now, the sword Excalibur in Camelot 3000–that’s an amazing weapon.  
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Mordred’s Grail Armour was even cooler.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/50 "2006-04-24T15:44:24Z")

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A member of the Dave Conspiracy, I see.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/51 "2006-04-24T16:06:44Z")

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Didn’t Katana from the old version of the Outsiders have an indestructible sword which imprisoned the souls of its victims, or was I just hallucinating from too much processed sugar as a teenager?

[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]  
A member of the Dave Conspiracy, I see.  
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There is no Dave Conspiracy.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/52 "2006-04-24T16:09:26Z")

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Any love for inertron? I don’t remember it being used as a weapon, but it’s supposed to be tougher than adamantium or vibranium…

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/53 "2006-04-24T16:42:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
Any love for inertron? I don’t remember it being used as a weapon, but it’s supposed to be tougher than adamantium or vibranium…  
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Inertron is simply very, very tough. It has been broken. I think even one incarnation of Karate Kid fractured it at one point.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/54 "2006-04-24T16:55:39Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Inertron is simply very, very tough. It has been broken. I think even one incarnation of Karate Kid fractured it at one point.  
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Inertron was tough–just not INFINITELY though–i.e., in a shocking concession to real-world physics, the durability of an inertron object depended on how thick it was, and it took time for even Element Lad to make. F’instance, I can recall a S&LSH in which Superboy and Ultra Boy had to peel through about an inch of it to get to the Miracle Machine, and they commented that if it were any thicker, even Kryptonian-level strength wouldn’t suffice; and another in which Element Lad tried to imprison the Emerald Empress in an inertron cage, but she was able to bust through it before he could make it think enough to contain her. At least one iteration of LSH headquarters had inertron shielding on the outer walls, and Superboy commented that, at a foot thick, it was more than even he could dent.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/55 "2006-04-24T19:52:50Z")

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[QUOTE=First Amongst Daves]  
Didn’t Katana from the old version of the Outsiders have an indestructible sword which imprisoned the souls of its victims…?  
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Yup, yup. Her late husband was in the sword.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/56 "2006-04-25T14:18:16Z")

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Bummer of a divorce, eh?

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/57 "2006-04-25T14:47:02Z")

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**dr. Fiedlius** writes:

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> Does the Winslow count as an object, since he is only arguably sentient?

Damn you, Dr. Fidelius (that, appropriately, sounds like comic-book dialogue)! That’s what I came in to suggest.  
Here are the relevant pages, for those unfamiliar with Winslow:

> **[Winslow](http://www.thugdome.com/slagblah_winslow.htm)**

Despite what the page says, these have been reprinted elsewhere, and earlier. I have them from the pages of the URCon III book from 1982.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/58 "2006-04-25T16:03:30Z")

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Whatever became of “The Cosmic Cube”  
(which I always thought was code for a sugar cube hit of acid)

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/59 "2006-04-25T16:27:20Z")

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[QUOTE=ddgryphon]  
Whatever became of “The Cosmic Cube”  
(which I always thought was code for a sugar cube hit of acid)  
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It became sentient and went away.

Good riddance I say.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/60 "2006-04-25T16:43:38Z")

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[QUOTE=ddgryphon]  
Whatever became of “The Cosmic Cube”  
(which I always thought was code for a sugar cube hit of acid)  
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There have been several cubes. Cosmic Cubes are living beings and become sentient after a time. The Shaper Of Worlds is a CC made by Skrulls. He mostly explores the universe and performs experiments to better understand sentient beings. Kosmos is a CC made by AIM. He also explores and experiments. He created a twin of himself, a female being named Kubik.

The Molecule Man and The Beyonder were revealed to be parts of another CC. They were joined, and for a while existed as just a big nigh-omnipotent Cube. Doom used the Cube to wish for the restoration of a missing section of his memory. Shaper, Kosmos and Kubik transported the CC away before anybody else could use it. This angered Ben Grimm “Hey! I got a wish too! I wanna wish for universal peace!”

Later, Owen Reese and the Beyonder were somehow seperated again.

IIRC The Super Adaptoid contains a fragment of a CC. The new hero Freedom Ring gets his power from a ring containing another CC fragment.

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