# Most durable weapon/object in comics?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 21, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683 "2006-04-21T20:32:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/61 "2006-04-25T17:05:53Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
Also, future-Norrin suffered the destruction of the board, and didn’t recreate it - It’s circumstantial, but I think it’s indicative that the board was a creation of Galactus - the Surfer can’t replicate it himself, no more than he could make someone a Herald.  
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That’s not accurate. The Surfer’s board was shattered in Thor 193 and the Surfer recreated it. I believe he also recreated it after Morg (with the water of life) destroyed it.

Hercule’s mace should also be up there but he hasn’t had it for some time.

Wonder Woman’s lasso was also broken by Bizzaro so it’s not just reality-warpers who have destroyed it.

Captain America’s shield was dented by King Thor (pre-runes).

I think I’d put Cap’s shield and WW’s bracelets as the most durable.

Adamantium and Uru should be about equal with perhaps a nod to Adamantium.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/62 "2006-04-25T17:29:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
Any love for inertron? I don’t remember it being used as a weapon, but it’s supposed to be tougher than adamantium or vibranium…  
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It’s a matter of semantics here. Inerton was developed while the LSH was fighting a pitched battle (mostly _losing_ in terms of the “casualties” among the “Seven Wonders” of the 30th C.) against “Starfinger.” He was actually Lightning Lad, the brainwashed pawn of “the **REAL** Starfinger”, Dr. Hanscomb.

Large oval shields were made of the pink stuff, and nearly the whole membership converged on LL while he vainly tried to blast them with a wide array of projected powers from his modified artificial arm.

(Just realized something. Earlier a lone Ultra Boy was repelled by a force blast while invulnerable and depending on a flight ring. The same thing should have happened to any inerton-weilder. Oooops! \*)

None of the LSH blasted in return, they just surrounded him until someone put his wrist into a hold, and then they removed his artificial arm.

So, whether inerton was used as a weapon is dependend upon definition. I’d say that if the Legionnaires had been willing to risk exposing their arms to blast him while converging it would have counted as a “weapon.”

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True Blue Jack

- But in any event he could have aimed for their feet, long though as the ovals shields may have been!

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/63 "2006-04-25T17:33:42Z")

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Any part of any costume that covers any female character’s nipples.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/64 "2006-04-25T18:06:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
Any part of any costume that covers any female character’s nipples.  
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And the Hulk’s pants.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/65 "2006-04-25T22:28:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Lochdale]  
That’s not accurate. The Surfer’s board was shattered in Thor 193 and the Surfer recreated it. I believe he also recreated it after Morg (with the water of life) destroyed it.  
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Did he conjure it anew from thin air, or did he re-assemble the pieces?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/66 "2006-04-25T22:55:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
Any part of any costume that covers any female character’s nipples.  
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The winner!

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/67 "2006-04-25T23:49:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
Any part of any costume that covers any female character’s nipples.  
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[Mermaid hair, then.](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/16pouces/mizzcandyfroggie/Daryl_Hannah_splash.jpg) Plus it’s waterproof!

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/68 "2006-04-26T04:25:10Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
Did he conjure it anew from thin air, or did he re-assemble the pieces?  
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He reassembled it from the broken pieces. There is nothing to suggest, however, that he couldn’t just recreate it if he needed to. The board is an extension of him so short of it being disintegrated I don’t see how it’s going to be an issue.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/69 "2006-04-26T06:05:46Z")

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Iron Man is the Joe Louis of indestructibility. All is owed to his IMPERVION.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/70 "2006-04-26T12:30:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Lochdale]  
He reassembled it from the broken pieces. There is nothing to suggest, however, that he couldn’t just recreate it if he needed to. The board is an extension of him so short of it being disintegrated I don’t see how it’s going to be an issue.  
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There actually is one thing to suggest that he can’t, that I mentioned before, and nothing to suggest that he can. But conjuring cosmic Krazy-glue isn’t a bad trick.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/71 "2006-04-26T14:59:30Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
There actually is one thing to suggest that he can’t, that I mentioned before, and nothing to suggest that he can. But conjuring cosmic Krazy-glue isn’t a bad trick.  
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I read your post and I think it is a reasonable position. Given some of the other crazy things that the Surfer has done though I would be surprised if he couldn’t.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/72 "2006-04-28T02:16:29Z")

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I knew I had seen this somewhere before:

[![](https://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...1989_027_18.jpg) ](https://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...1989_027_18.jpg)

[![](https://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...1989_027_19.jpg) ](https://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...1989_027_19.jpg)

Surfer recreates his board out of nothing.

Space Jesus indeed.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/73 "2006-04-28T02:28:20Z")

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Bad link, and bad link.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/74 "2006-04-28T03:45:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Bad link, and bad link.  
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Just noted that. Sorry, not sure how to [fix](http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_18.jpg) [them](http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_19.jpg) other than uploading it all again.

Suffice to say, the Surfer recreates his board out of nothing.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/75 "2006-04-28T18:50:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Lochdale]  
Just noted that. Sorry, not sure how to [fix](http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_18.jpg) [them](http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_19.jpg) other than uploading it all again.

Suffice to say, the Surfer recreates his board out of nothing.  
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So it would seem. One wonders, then, why he didn’t recreate it in the 30th century.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/76 "2006-04-28T22:39:16Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
So it would seem. One wonders, then, why he didn’t recreate it in the 30th century.  
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Probably because the writer either didn’t know about it or it just didn’t fit into the plot.

The Surfer has moved a light speed without his board before but he seems to move better with it I guess.

My one question is this, why does his board need a fin/rudder?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/77 "2006-04-28T22:50:08Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
So it would seem. One wonders, then, why he didn’t recreate it in the 30th century.  
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Do you mean in the Guardians universe?

He does. But, by that point he’s been stripped of the power cosmic. His abilities come from the Quantum bands and the hidden power that all humans have. He’s been coached in finding the latter by a renegade Watcher, who interferes.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/78 "2006-04-28T23:27:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Lochdale]  
Probably because the writer either didn’t know about it or it just didn’t fit into the plot.

The Surfer has moved a light speed without his board before but he seems to move better with it I guess.

My one question is this, why does his board need a fin/rudder?  
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Sometimes it doesn’t have one, depending on the artist.

I always thought the Surfer was cool.  
🆒

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/79 "2006-04-29T01:24:41Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Do you mean in the Guardians universe?

He does. But, by that point he’s been stripped of the power cosmic. His abilities come from the Quantum bands and the hidden power that all humans have. He’s been coached in finding the latter by a renegade Watcher, who interferes.  
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I don’t remember him recreating the board in the Guardians timeline. Got an issue number for me? Not that I doubt, but I’d like to see it myself.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-durable-weapon-object-in-comics/353683/80 "2006-04-29T01:34:31Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
I don’t remember him recreating the board in the Guardians timeline. Got an issue number for me? Not that I doubt, but I’d like to see it myself.  
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I can’t remember the number. It involved Galactus and may have had a special chrome cover. The Guardians have recently re-met Norrin, who wore a red sash and the Quantum Bands. They learned he was the Keeper. Norrin and the Guardians fought, and defeated, Galactus. Norrin volunteers to be herald again so that he can lead Galactus to lifeless worlds. One of the Guardians says something about the Keeper. Another replies, ‘I don’t think we can call him that anymore. I just saw him recreate his board.’. IIRC the last page was a splash panel of Norrin with sash and QB on his board.

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