# Most Liberals are Hateful and Nasty Individuals **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635 "2013-05-29T16:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/221 "2013-06-01T00:57:14Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > See? What, the same poster who has a problem with you, who only snarked at you originally because you snarked at someone else? Who is now snarking at you because you are whining about said snark? Along with others who are doing the same thing? And all of this after most people came along and commended you for being nice? You’re generally a nice guy on these boards, but even you’ve done a whole lot worse than is happening to you right now. You’re whining about being persecuted when you aren’t. You know that sort of thing rifles feathers around here. So stop it. No one is being remotely hateful right now. Not even me. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/222 "2013-06-01T01:20:04Z")
Just stopping in to say that, due to some creative reading as I scanned thread titles, I’m currently sitting here thinking about liberals who are a hatfull of tasty. Mmmm, John Stewart… ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/223 "2013-06-01T01:32:42Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > No one is being remotely hateful right now. Not even me. I am. You big lug. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/224 "2013-06-01T01:33:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Denver is the “Mile High City”, now more than ever. And Davenport is, well, Iowa. TBF, I have known not a few RWers who get duly faced from time to time. Though, really, judging by their representation in government, it would seem a bit redundant. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/225 "2013-06-01T01:47:10Z")
> [@miss elizabeth](#): > > > [@tiescore](#): > > > > It was then I realized I am to the left, just a revenue source and not a citizen. My government worker friends feel I need to pay more taxes, the investments I have to make to save for my meager retirement… while they get pensions with annuity values in the multiple millions handed to them on my dime. > > It sounds like you made poor financial and career decisions. I don’t see why you think it’s your right to deny someone the compensation they earned just because they work for the government. I mean, it’s not fucking welfare- they are doing a job. Maybe you should have made smarter choices and sought similar work, or done a better job preparing for your retirement. Sounds like you need to stop being lazy and pull yourself up by your bootstraps. This exchange made me smile. If it isn’t to be answered at least I just wanted it noted again. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/226 "2013-06-01T01:58:26Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > 😕 Republicans throw frisbees around at their picnics? > > I thought they just handed the frisbee to their valet and instructed him to carry it over to the other fellow… That’s the old GOP’s picnics. At the picnics of the new GOP the attendees chase the frisbees with their paid-for-by-Social-Security Hoverounds.\* It’s an ever-changing political climate. You have to work to keep up. - - The other day at the store the cartboy saw me gimping my bad knees and fat ass around and offered me a motorized, sit-down, shopping cart. I hate him. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/227 "2013-06-01T02:20:17Z")
> [@Slypork](#): > > While I won’t go along completely with what the OP said, I do agree there appears to be a level of vitriol and animosity from many people on the left. Neither I nor the majority of conservatives I know “hate” any current politicians, including Obama. We don’t take smug satisfaction in the death of a liberal opponent the way the liberals did when Thatcher (or Reagan for that matter) died. Painting all conservatives, including all Tea Party members, as racist homophobes is just as improper as saying that all members of OWS were tree-hugging stoned out hippies looking to overthrow America (and don’t forget that OWS had [corporate sponsors](http://movementresourcegroup.org/?page_id=205) and was supported by some of the most [vile groups](http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/31/the-99-official-list-of-ows/) around {sorry for posting from this site but it is a comprehensive list with supporting links})\*. Throwing crap at someone will still leave the thrower with dirty hands. > > I don’t like Bachmann (or Cheney, or W, or Limbaugh, or Beck). But I don’t “hate” Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Maddow, etc. Hate the policies, not the person. > \*I know some people will say that I am throwing crap and painting the groups with a broad brush. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy here. There are no angels. We are all guilty to some extent. That does not make it right. > [@Marley23](#): > > It’s trivially easy to find lots of conservatives who do. Maybe you’re choosing to hang out with a better class of people, but there’s a world of difference between “most of the conservatives I know don’t hate any politicians” and “liberals are more hateful than conservatives.” Clearly **Slypork** has never spent any time at the Politics & Other Controversies forum at City-Data. The right wing frothing vitriolic hate is oozing out of every thread. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/228 "2013-06-01T02:22:22Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994, which started the explosion of “alternative medicine”, was sponsored by Orrin Hatch (R-UT.) The very republican state of Utah probably has more companies making these products than any other. They’re everywhere. While this is true, and Hatch is not the only Republican woo pusher, Democrats are the ones who have pushed for funding of [NCCAM](http://www.nih.gov/about/almanac/organization/NCCAM.htm) and spending tax money on fruitless trying to confirm the existence of various forms of magical healing: > [@](#): > > October 1991—The U.S. Congress passes legislation (Public Law 102-170) that provides $2 million in funding for fiscal year 1992 to establish an office within the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to investigate and evaluate promising unconventional medical practices. [ [QUOTE=Library of Congress] 4. H.R.3839 : Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1992 Sponsor: Rep Natcher, William H. [KY-2] (introduced 11/21/1991) Cosponsors (None) Committees: House Appropriations Latest Major Action: 11/26/1991 Became Public Law No: 102-170. [/QUOTE] ](http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d102&querybd=@FIELD%28FLD003+@4%28%28@1%28Rep+Natcher++William+H.%29%29+00853%29%29) [ [QUOTE=Wiki] William Huston Natcher (September 11, 1909 – March 29, 1994) was a Democratic congressman, serving in the United States House of Representatives from 1953 to 1994. [/QUOTE] ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Huston_Natcher) To me, it seems that Republican support of woo is usually an effort to remove regulations from questionable producers/practitioners, while Democrats want to use the government to validate their beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/229 "2013-06-01T02:27:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > When was the last time we had a group hug for **Bricker**? I remember burning some clothes last Thanksgiving, but I don’t specifically remember why. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/230 "2013-06-01T04:21:50Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > While this is true, and Hatch is not the only Republican woo pusher, Democrats are the ones who have pushed for funding of [NCCAM](http://www.nih.gov/about/almanac/organization/NCCAM.htm) and spending tax money on fruitless trying to confirm the existence of various forms of magical healing: > > [ > [URL=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William\_Huston\_Natcher”]](http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d102&querybd=@FIELD%28FLD003+@4%28%28@1%28Rep+Natcher++William+H.%29%29+00853%29%29) > > To me, it seems that Republican support of woo is usually an effort to remove regulations from questionable producers/practitioners, while Democrats want to use the government to validate their beliefs. It seems odd that you would use this example to claim that Democrats support woo. The role of NCCAM is to subject alternative medical theories to rigorous scientific investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/231 "2013-06-01T16:26:59Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > To me, it seems that Republican support of woo is usually an effort to remove regulations from questionable producers/practitioners, while Democrats want to use the government to validate their beliefs. And it seems you’re not counting Christianity as “woo”, though it qualifies as such. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/232 "2013-06-01T16:56:20Z")
Well, for one thing, we on the left just don’t have any experience with having unpopular opinions, we are always greeted with glad cries of approval and agreement. So maybe we have a hard time relating to **Bricker** ’s problem, because nobody ever gives us any shit. Solution that springs to mind is change those unpopular opinions. I can’t actually approve that because it would be cowardly, servile, and not nearly so much fun for me. It would however, solve the issue of your opinions being sarcastically flogged or snidely whiplashed. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/233 "2013-06-01T23:45:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You believe that everybody used to agree that every item on your list was a problem? > > Really? Did I say that? No, I didn’t. I was giving examples of things that today’s GOP doesn’t regard as problems worthy of a governmental role. I’ll let you defend the idea that they’re not problems of that sort (or not problems at all), if you wish. But just for the record, there **was** wide, bipartisan consensus for 4 out of 5, the only exception being of course equality for gays. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/234 "2013-06-02T06:12:16Z")
> [@Slypork](#): > > Where the hell is the middle of the road candidate? Someone who is willing to negotiate and talk. Someone who says that the government will help people when they need it but not do everything for them. Someone who says our military must be strong but that we are not the world’s policeman. Someone who says protect the innocent, punish the wrongdoers and treat people fairly. Someone who says that the rich and powerful and corporations should be expected to pay appropriate taxes and not sneak through loopholes that the average schmuck can’t get. Someone who says that since Joe Blow can’t run his house in the red then neither can the government. Those would be the Democrats. Somehow you’ve managed to listen but not hear that those are exactly all the things we’ve been saying, advocating, and legislating for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/235 "2013-06-02T09:03:24Z")
Guess the candidate. These were all positions the candidate worked for or advocated: [ul] [li]Supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.[/li][li]Supported the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) of 1967.[/li][li]Supported extending the Voting Rights Act in 1982.[/li][li]Supported the Americans with Disabilities Act[/li][li]Supported the Equal Opportunity Act, which prohibits the use of racial and gender preferences in federal contracting, federal employment, and programs wholly administered by the federal government.[/li][li]Supported the Congressional Accountability Act which requires members of Congress to live under the same laws that apply to everyone else.[/li][li]Supported comprehensive lobbying reform.[/li][li]Supported legislation to ban contributions by political action committees, restrict fundraising outside a candidate’s own state, prohibit taxpayer-financed “franked” mass mailings a full year before an election, and ban the practice of “bundling” contributions. (I believe this didn’t pass. I’m pretty sure that the Citizens United decision means the first two can’t happen anymore unless the decision is overturned.)[/li][li]Supported an Amendment to the Constitution to establish a two-term limit for Senators and six-term limit for House members.[/li][li]Supported limiting the power of special interest groups.[/li][li]Wanted representatives to be more accountable to their constituents.[/li][li]Supported establishing a National Instant Check system to keep criminals from purchasing firearms.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/236 "2013-06-02T12:02:49Z")
Candidate for what? Is this an actual person whose name we are supposed to guess? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/237 "2013-06-02T15:12:54Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Guess the candidate. These were all positions the candidate worked for or advocated: > [ul] > [li]Supported the Congressional Accountability Act which requires members of Congress to live under the same laws that apply to everyone else.[/li][li]Supported an Amendment to the Constitution to establish a two-term limit for Senators and six-term limit for House members.[/li][/ul] The first seems a bit moronic. Name a law that Congressmen are exempt from. This bit is usually promoted by the same half-wits that think Congressmen don’t pay in to Social Security. The second is perhaps even dumber. Yeah, we want a bunch of amateurs in Congress. When tough issues come up, we want people with very little legislative experience. Not. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/238 "2013-06-02T15:59:45Z")
Those were positions held by a real candidate for the office of President of the United States within the last 40 years. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/239 "2013-06-02T16:03:31Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Those were positions held by a real candidate for the office of President of the United States within the last 40 years. Sometime next year you’re going to tell us and we’re going to be SO impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/240 "2013-06-02T16:12:10Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > [li]Supported the Equal Opportunity Act, which prohibits the use of racial and gender preferences in federal contracting, federal employment, and programs wholly administered by the federal government.[/li][li]Supported the Congressional Accountability Act which requires members of Congress to live under the same laws that apply to everyone else.[/li][li]Supported an Amendment to the Constitution to establish a two-term limit for Senators and six-term limit for House members.[/li][li]Supported limiting the power of special interest groups.[/li][li]Wanted representatives to be more accountable to their constituents.[/li][/LIST] These items right here make me think that this is someone I wouldn’t have supported. Because they’re either wrong-headed or outright stupid. I’m guessing John McCain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635.md?page=13)