# Most Liberals are Hateful and Nasty Individuals

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635 "2013-05-29T16:41:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/21 "2013-05-29T17:16:11Z")

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> [@bigdfrombigd](#):
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> Frothing at the mouth??? Lol! See what I mean? Why couldn’t you just politely reply?

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> You have already said that liberals are “hateful individuals”, “vicious”, and “racist”; and you think **Indyellen** is the one who is being impolite? If you can figure out the answer to that question, it might go a long way toward helping you understand things.

Furthermore, it chose to respond to the 1/3 of the previous posts that we less than fully polite. Just right here in the thread it refutes the proposition due to the 2/3 politeness factor.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/22 "2013-05-29T17:16:41Z")

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I’d like to propose a corollary to Poe’s Law: once politics are involved, no trolling can be too obvious or hamfisted to elicit responses.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/23 "2013-05-29T17:16:47Z")

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Edit: nm

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/24 "2013-05-29T17:17:35Z")

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> [@Meatros](#):
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> Welcome to political discourse. If you think this sort of invective is an exclusive liberal trait, well, you must be new to political discourse…

Either that, or utterly ignorant of the psychological phenomenon of projection.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/25 "2013-05-29T17:17:45Z")

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I didn’t see the OP as a rant so much as it was a whine. Sounded a lot like a 6th grader, actually.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/26 "2013-05-29T17:19:59Z")

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> [@bigdfrombigd](#):
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> Honestly, what is so wrong with the Tea Party?

[This,](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tea_Party#Astroturf_organisation) for starters.

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> **Astroturf organisation**
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> Despite claims that it is a “grassroots” organisation, the Tea Party has merely become another patsy for the US’s health care insurance companies to fight healthcare reform. The “Tea Party Caucus” received donations of $2.7 million from the health care sector, which also contributed towards a $25 million “war chest” to be used by the Tea Party to fight the elections.[17][18]
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> One insurer has gone so far as to urge employees to attend anti-healthcare Tea Party rallies.[19][20]
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> The two main 'Bagger astroturf groups are FreedomWorks headed by Dick Armey and Americans for Prosperity. Both were spun off from the Koch-bankrolled Citizens for a Sound Economy. The Kochs denied any connection to the Tea Parties. A few months after that statement, a video leaked of Teabag state chapter leaders reporting directly to David Koch himself at the Americans for Prosperity mothership.[21] (But they’re grassroots, honest!)
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> Sadly, most Tea Party members are too full of righteous indignation and are too stupid to realise they are merely pawns in a gambit by their corporate backers to ensure they retain their profits… at the cost of the very people who are cheering them on.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/27 "2013-05-29T17:21:22Z")

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You must be new h… wait, June 2003? What?

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/28 "2013-05-29T17:22:45Z")

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I have to admit I was way, way off on my guess of the OP’s join date. I almost had to do a double take I couldn’t believe it.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/29 "2013-05-29T17:25:29Z")

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Angry troll is angry.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/30 "2013-05-29T17:28:00Z")

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Don’t blame him. He’s [in mourning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15640401&postcount=4).

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/31 "2013-05-29T17:33:14Z")

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Most liberals are reprehensible. As are most conservatives, and most other people who don’t fit those labels. And dogs. And cats. And a few of the parakeets I’ve met. I haven’t met a hateful and nasty guinea pig yet, but let me tell you about hamsters…

I don’t like anyone very much, especially media people, unless they make me laugh.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/32 "2013-05-29T17:33:33Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Don’t blame him. He’s [in mourning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15640401&postcount=4).

Oh poor guy. Even poor adaher managed to get over that one. Well, I’m sure that the Romney campaign will soon find the break they’ve been waiting for, and really turn that campaign around!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/33 "2013-05-29T17:36:18Z")

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> [@bigdfrombigd](#):
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> I personally think that most liberals are racist because they can’t seem to leave race out of anything. They see everything in terms of race. What is up with that?

What is up with it is the fact that America is not a post-racist society just quite yet, there is still such thing as white skin privilege here; therefore, if anyone complains “they can’t seem to leave race out of anything,” the rest of us are justified in suspecting that person of being content with that status quo.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/34 "2013-05-29T17:36:35Z")

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> [@bigdfrombigd](#):
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> Why is it that most liberals are so vicious?

We don’t have guns to work out our rage, so it just builds and builds.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/35 "2013-05-29T17:39:13Z")

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And we’re poor. Kicking other poor people just doesn’t relieve the tension the same way as when you’re rich.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/36 "2013-05-29T17:41:25Z")

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> [@bigdfrombigd](#):
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> I don’t understand how you can call them racist for wanting smaller government, fiscal responsibility and adherence to our constitution.

We don’t call Teabaggers racists because they want smaller government.

We call them racists because many of them [are](http://www.buzztwang.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/cnn_dc_tea_party_racist_sign.jpg) [racists](http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18k3e3k11dakjjpg/ku-medium.jpg).

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/37 "2013-05-29T17:51:14Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> He’s also stupid as hell, and overall not worth defending in the first place. There are, of course, no loud and rude conservative talk show hosts, which is why Matthews is reviled by all as a beacon of incivility.

He’s average, which in the context of the really bright MSNBC hosts like Maddow and Hayes, makes him seem dim. But he has an old-school, two-fisted take on politics that is worth paying attention to occasionally. He and O’Donnell seem to have the best grasp on the mechanics of sausage making.

I’d rank the MSNBC hosts I watch:

1: Maddow  
2: Hayes (close behind)  
3: O’Donnell  
4: Kornacki  
5: Matthews  
6: Harris-Perry

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/38 "2013-05-29T17:51:17Z")

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I would venture a guess that the OP has never watched Rachel Maddow. She’s certainly biased to the left, but is usually very even-handed in her commentary, unlike Mr. Shouty-pants (Matthews), who I loathe. Chris Hayes has a lead-in show to Maddow that is thoughtful and includes intelligent commentary, unlike most of the shouting and fake outrage at Fox.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/39 "2013-05-29T17:59:05Z")

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Just for fun, [here are some choice bits of Bachmann guano courtesy of Wikiquote](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann). From ‘homosexuality is a type of slavery that comes from Satan’ to ‘taxes are like the Holocaust’ to ‘God is using earthquakes and tornadoes to warn us about federal spending’ to ‘vaccinations cause retardation’ to ‘Obama and liberals are anti-America’ to … well, everything she has ever said about gays, she really is a treasure trove of hateful and nasty statements.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/40 "2013-05-29T18:04:43Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Chris Hayes has a lead-in show to Maddow that is thoughtful and includes intelligent commentary, unlike most of the shouting and fake outrage at Fox.

I described his show as a Sunday morning talk show in weekday prime time.

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