# Most Liberals are Hateful and Nasty Individuals **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635 "2013-05-29T16:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/121 "2013-05-30T14:03:08Z")
> [@Molesworth\_2](#): > > the Kenyan Muslin Usurper Nope, I just can’t picture Obama wearing stolen bedsheets. 😉 > [@Bricker](#): > > I wager that most liberals are liberals precisely because they wish to help those less fortunate than they are…Of course, in my view, liberals are mostly wrong about the best way to help those less fortunate That assertion might carry a little weight if the conservatives did, in fact, \*have \*a different way to \*actually \*accomplish that goal. But, as long as the party line is “Fuck 'em”, then the assertion that they’re bad people remains grounded. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/122 "2013-05-30T14:49:58Z")
It goes deeper than just disagreeing on the solutions to our problems. Our mutual disgust stems from the fact that conservatives live in an alternate reality and we can’t agree on what the basic facts are. Bachmann represents government of the ignorant, by the ignorant, and for the ignorant. Vaccines cause retardation, creationism is as valid as evolution, global warming is a hoax, all we need to do is lower taxes to create jobs, Obamacare equals death panels and socialism, voter impersonation is a huge problem that must be addressed even if preventing ten fraudulent ballots prevents hundreds of thousands from voting, all Muslims are evil terrorists, there’s a war on Christmas, it goes on and on. Normally I don’t mind how stupid people are, but if your stupidity keeps the rest of us from moving forward, that’s a problem. I can’t say that Tea Partiers are all hateful people, but they tolerate if not embrace bigotry and they are profoundly ignorant. So yes, losing a prominent voice for ignorance and bigotry is good news for the nation and liberals are quite right to rejoice. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/123 "2013-05-30T15:06:39Z")
I’d like to think that somewhere out there is a rightie who was just as disgusted by the MOVE bombing as I, a leftie, was by Ruby Ridge and Waco. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/124 "2013-05-30T15:17:59Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > And, yeah, Bill Maher should never have said that. It was dumb, rude, and offensive. And once again we’re comparing a politician a bunch of Republicans wanted to be president to a comedian. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/125 "2013-05-30T15:24:28Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > It goes deeper than just disagreeing on the solutions to our problems. Our mutual disgust stems from the fact that conservatives live in an alternate reality and we can’t agree on what the basic facts are. Indeed; see link below. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Other way around, IME: Conservatives think liberals are bad people. The liberal view of conservatives is more like [this](http://www.amazon.com/Republican-Brain-Science-Science-Reality/dp/1118094514). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/126 "2013-05-30T15:25:39Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And once again we’re comparing a politician a bunch of Republicans wanted to be president to a comedian. Always thought of Bachmann more as a performance artist . . . ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/127 "2013-05-30T15:34:47Z")
To be fair, not all conservatives and republicans deny facts and science. Some just don’t care what the facts are, and only care about what their gut tells them. To me, THAT’S the biggest problem with republicans. I’ve heard them say time and time again “you just have to go with what you believe!” and similar things. Colbert hammers this with his “truthiness” all the time, and he’s 100% spot on. It’s the fatal flaw of conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/128 "2013-05-30T16:46:29Z")
Let me ask this, who are the leading voices of the conservative movement these days? There are hateful people on both sides, but which side has mainstreamed their hateful people to the top of their org chart? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/129 "2013-05-30T16:46:38Z")
[The Burnt Orange Report](http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/13588/michele-bachmann-is-retiring-leaving-a-texan-as-craziest-in-congress) points out that Bachmann’s departure leaves the title “Craziest in Congress” up for grabs–and Texas has some of the front runners! (Sensitive Conservatives are advised to stop reading now.) > [@](#): > > Is it Rep. Louie Gohmert? He recently accused the Attorney General of siding with the Boston Bombers, claimed “radical Islamists” were posing as Hispanics and crossing the border, and said the Aurora shooting was a result of “ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs.” Gohmert regularly goes on television and sounds about as aggressively ignorant as the worst stereotype of a Texan. > > Or is it Rep. Steve Stockman? He recently brought up arming embryos with guns, said the Violence Against Women Act is bad because it is “helping the liberals,” and compared the president to Saddam Hussein. > > It could certainly be Sen. Ted Cruz. “Crazy Ted Cruz” has made McCarthy-ite accusations against Chuck Hagel, promoted paranoid fantasies about our government shutting down golf courses and building “hobbit homes,” and spread deliberate Medicaid distortions. He is literally at Michele Bachmann-levels of lying to the American people. Cruz also plays the role of Bachmann in the Senate, spewing nonsense and ideologically trying to derail any semblance of progress in America. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/130 "2013-05-30T16:48:09Z")
> [@AlienVessels](#): > > Neither side is very effective at characterizing the mind set of the other side. > > Speaking as a liberal, I think there are a lot of conservatives that are “bad” because they _tend_ to think more locally. Except for the neocons, and they’re even worse with their thinking globally. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/131 "2013-05-30T17:38:02Z")
I’m TSS, and I’m a liberal. I’m happy Michelle Bachman is going away. Our society works on dissent and the other side putting their best foot forward. Michelle Bachman was not the best the other side could put forward in the 2012 primaries. She was among the worst. Newt Gingrich was a giant by comparison, and he was a poor foot forward too. Huntsman was their most qualified and really only qualified in my opinion, Romney second. But the clown posse kept out JEB Bush types by taking up all the bandwidth. By comparison to Bachman, Boehner and McConnell are highly qualified. Bachman was a trolling joke. Like Sarah Palin. Sometimes the Republicans are going to win elections, and sometimes Democrats. Those on the losing side don’t want to see the country going into the shitter because some f’in joke candidate won the office at stake. Can you Republicans please come up with some adults? Bachman isn’t one of them. We will try to do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/132 "2013-05-30T17:38:38Z")
Ok, to summarize, from the \*This Just In \*Department; Humans in general are often complete shits to each other and this is true regardless of religion, culture, ‘race’ or ideology. Pretending that group X is worse than your group is delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/133 "2013-05-30T17:56:42Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Pretending that group X is worse than your group is delusional. That’s a huge generalization, and pretty much entirely untrue. If you pick any two groups, I’d be willing to bet you’d be able to find some difference between them, depending on how you do the measurement. Just to pick a trivial example, I’m going to go ahead and make the bold claim that Doctors Without Borders is a better group of people than were the leadership of the Nazi party in 1940’s Germany. Real differences can and do exist. Obviously, deciding what those differences are is a very subjective process and open to debate, but to just claim that everyone is equally bad is a lazy and useless point of view. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/134 "2013-05-30T18:04:37Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ok, to summarize, from the \*This Just In \*Department; > > Humans in general are often complete shits to each other and this is true regardless of religion, culture, ‘race’ or ideology. > > Pretending that group X is worse than your group is delusional. Whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/135 "2013-05-30T18:35:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Of course, most of the liberals you just listed don’t make a habit of directly and personally attacking people with conservative values, the way Bachmann, Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck regularly do with liberals. That just says the Libby-libs are too chicken to lay it on the table. No, they wanna fight sneaky and underhanded, with subtlety. And make you think when you should feel. Mark my words, friends and neighbors - anyone who appeals to your logic and not your gut in times like these is not your friend. They’re tilting the playing field in favor of the edjamacated elites! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Booker\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@Happy\_Booker\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Booker_1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/136 "2013-05-30T19:04:13Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I described his show as a Sunday morning talk show in weekday prime time. I wish that were true. Hayes’ Saturday/Sunday show was really extraordinary. Good (and even ideologically diverse) panels, complex issues, thoughtful discussion – sometimes heated, but always thoughtful. Kornacki hasn’t yet shown that he can do that. Hayes in the evening is just another talking head with six minute slots. One great show gone, replaced by two mediocre ones. ---
**Author:** ![dataguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@dataguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dataguy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/137 "2013-05-30T19:19:43Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ok, to summarize, from the \*This Just In \*Department; > > Humans in general are often complete shits to each other and this is true regardless of religion, culture, ‘race’ or ideology. > > Pretending that group X is worse than your group is delusional. Okay, would you please identify the Democratic equivalents of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, and Ted Cruz, just to name a few. If you can do that, I might consider your point of view as valid. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/138 "2013-05-30T19:29:13Z")
Of _course_ there are no Democratic equivalents to those people. Democrats don’t _care_ enough about the things that matter to fight dirty. They don’t have enough _morality_ to be willing to lie and bully in the name of the truth! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/139 "2013-05-30T19:44:24Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > That’s a huge generalization, and pretty much entirely untrue. If you pick any two groups, I’d be willing to bet you’d be able to find some difference between them, depending on how you do the measurement. Just to pick a trivial example, I’m going to go ahead and make the bold claim that Doctors Without Borders is a better group of people than were the leadership of the Nazi party in 1940’s Germany. Well, except WRT dress sense. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635/140 "2013-05-30T20:24:11Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, except WRT dress sense. See? It all depends on what criteria you use. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-liberals-are-hateful-and-nasty-individuals/659635.md?page=8)