# Most mistreated Bond villain , pre Skyfall **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967 "2012-11-05T16:39:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/1 "2012-11-05T16:39:29Z")
No spoilers for Skyfall please. James Bonds adversaries routinely suffer cool and unusual ends. Which villains suffered the most. My vote is for that Greek fellow in **Casino Royale**. Bond takes his car, fucks his wife and kills him, all in one night. * * * MOD NOTE ADDED: No spoilers for SKYFALL, but (by the nature of this topic) there will be spoilers about other Bond movies. If you don’t want to see spoilers about earlier 007 films or books, please don’t read this thread. – CKDH ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/2 "2012-11-05T16:44:58Z")
Blofeld, hands down. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/3 "2012-11-05T17:06:01Z")
Fat Bastard. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/4 "2012-11-05T18:52:41Z")
Jaws, by definition (cut and pasted from Wikipedia): Survives an Egyptian structure’s collapse on top of him Being hit by a van, being thrown from a rapidly-moving train Sitting in the passenger seat of a car which veers off a cliff in Sardinia and lands in a hut below A battle underwater with a shark The destruction of Stromberg’s lair Survives falling several thousand feet after accidentally disabling his own parachute A crash through a building inside a runaway cable car Going over Iguazu Falls ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/5 "2012-11-05T22:15:28Z")
I am inclined to think the guy from Goldeneye who was impaled by the telescope tower had it roughest…that was in addition to being scared for life by 007 early in his career. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/6 "2012-11-05T23:04:08Z")
Suffered the most? I’d say it was a toss-up between Anthony Zerbe that exploded in the pressure chamber in **License To Kill** , or the 7-Up guy from **Live and Let Die** that got bitten by a few dozen snakes. (I know you see him at the end but I always thought that was his ghost). ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/7 "2012-11-05T23:42:25Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Suffered the most? I’d say it was a toss-up between Anthony Zerbe that exploded in the pressure chamber in **License To Kill** , or the 7-Up guy from **Live and Let Die** that got bitten by a few dozen snakes. (I know you see him at the end but I always thought that was his ghost). What about Kananga(Yaphet Kotto), also from **Live and Let Die**? He got blown up, like a balloon, after Bond forced that gas pill down his throat. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/8 "2012-11-06T01:30:14Z")
General Koskov, from _The Living Daylights_. Bucking for a promotion while looking to cover up his drugs-for-arms sales, Koskov frames the head of the KGB; Bond gets sent in, kills various bad guys, destroys half-a-billion in assets, and – upon realizing the truth – simply hands Koskov to said head of said KGB, who looks forward to making Koskov fit in a diplomatic pouch. Bond also bangs Koskov’s girlfriend, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/9 "2012-11-06T01:50:25Z")
I don’t think Jaws counts as a villain. I believe his official title was “Henchman”. > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > A battle underwater with a shark I’m not sure that counts as mistreatment; he seemed to quite enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/10 "2012-11-06T10:24:30Z")
Dr No (in the movies) can’t climb out of the boiling whatever because of his artificial hands… that’s gotta be frustrating. [Aside: in the books, he meets a different end, buried under a pile of bat shit. No foolin’.] ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/11 "2012-11-06T15:41:35Z")
Actually the guy who suffers the most (in the books at least) is not a bad guy at all, but the CIA man Felix Leiter (sp). He loses a different body part in each book. A hand, an eye, an arm, etc. It got to the point of each time I picked up a new book I would wonder what would be left of Felix at the end of the book. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/12 "2012-11-06T15:59:12Z")
I’ll vote for Kananga. Being inflated like a balloon can’t be that pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/13 "2012-11-06T16:18:48Z")
> [@TV\_time](#): > > It got to the point of each time I picked up a new book I would wonder what would be left of Felix at the end of the book. A little Leiter. ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/14 "2012-11-06T17:06:24Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Jaws, by definition (cut and pasted from Wikipedia): > > Survives an Egyptian structure’s collapse on top of him > > Being hit by a van, being thrown from a rapidly-moving train > > Sitting in the passenger seat of a car which veers off a cliff in Sardinia and lands in a hut below > > A battle underwater with a shark > > The destruction of Stromberg’s lair > > Survives falling several thousand feet after accidentally disabling his own parachute > > A crash through a building inside a runaway cable car > > Going over Iguazu Falls Didn’t he also survive re-entry in a crashing space station in Moonraker (with his new girlfriend?) ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/15 "2012-11-06T19:23:00Z")
> [@lawoot](#): > > Didn’t he also survive re-entry in a crashing space station in Moonraker (with his new girlfriend?) I don’t think he did survive. He helped Bond break loose knowing they weren’t going to make it, then toasted his girl “Well, here’s to us.” ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/16 "2012-11-06T20:05:18Z")
No, I’m rather certain there was a comment at the end of Moonraker that indicated that Jaws and his girlfriend survived. My vote goes to Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies - ground up by a “sea drill”, and, in a recurring theme, cuckolded by Bond. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/17 "2012-11-06T20:19:31Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > No, I’m rather certain there was a comment at the end of Moonraker that indicated that Jaws and his girlfriend survived. _Colonel Scott reports picking up two survivors from the space station, a tall man and a short blonde woman._ ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/18 "2012-11-06T20:29:42Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/19 "2012-11-09T16:51:22Z")
No love for Oddjob or that lesbian Soviet Colonel? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967/20 "2012-11-10T03:59:39Z")
Auric Goldfinger, sucked out the window of his private jet at 30,000 ft. That’s gotta hurt! ☹ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-mistreated-bond-villain-pre-skyfall/639967.md?page=2)