# Most ridiculed individuals in history?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 24, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952 "2017-03-24T20:08:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![waem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e47c2d/32.png) [@waem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waem)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/1 "2017-03-24T20:08:18Z")

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A Vanity Fair article mentions that the current US president “may well be the most ridiculed man in history”.

Who else do you think would be on such a list?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/2 "2017-03-24T20:18:07Z")

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Carrot Top?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/3 "2017-03-24T20:19:00Z")

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None that would beat Trump, but:

Kayne West  
Jimmy Carter  
Neville Chamberlain

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/4 "2017-03-24T20:39:55Z")

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Jimmy Carter? Really? Jimmy Carter is a great man, and few Presidents, or even common men, can hold a candle to him.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/5 "2017-03-24T20:40:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Jimmy Carter? Really? Jimmy Carter is a great man, and few Presidents, or even common men, can hold a candle to him.

I completely agree. But he’s often ridiculed (not by me)

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/6 "2017-03-24T20:57:11Z")

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George W. Bush

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/7 "2017-03-24T21:30:46Z")

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A lot of US Presidents were ridiculed mercilessly in their time. People forget Hoover, Wilson, Arthur, Coolidge. I heard Nixon took a few criticisms as well.

But they fade with time. Herr Twitler, on the other hand, may have some staying power. His presidency may stand the test of time. He’s already making W look like an outstanding president. That takes extraordinary effort.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/8 "2017-03-24T21:31:57Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I completely agree. But he’s often ridiculed (not by me)

I don’t think that Carter is particularly ridiculed today (or even in the last decade or two). But, during his presidency, and immediately afterwards, he was widely seen as an ineffectual, weak president. It’s the work he’s done after his presidency, his statesmanship and grace, which has changed opinions of him.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/9 "2017-03-24T21:34:39Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> His presidency may stand the test of time. He’s already making W look like an outstanding president.

When logic and proportion. Have fallen sloppy dead. And the White Knight is talking backwards. And the Red Queen’s off with her head. Remember what the dormouse said. Feed your head. Feed your head.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/10 "2017-03-24T22:03:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Jimmy Carter? Really? Jimmy Carter is a great man, and few Presidents, or even common men, can hold a candle to him.

Be that as it may, he was still highly ridiculed. Up until Carter, people said “If only we could get an honest man in the White House.” When we finally got one, we couldn’t wait to get rid of him.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/11 "2017-03-24T22:22:04Z")

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The most ridiculed person would be the person who is anathema to whomever has control over the most powerful and influential apparatus with which to express and disseminate hate. That would put people like Castro and Darwin right in the crosshairs.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/12 "2017-03-24T22:28:00Z")

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How about George McClellan? Whatever the opposite of “vindicated by history” is, it’s what happened to McClellan. While he had his defenders in his lifetime, pretty much everyone would now agree that his record during the war was a string of wrong decisions and bad judgments.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/13 "2017-03-24T22:43:17Z")

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The problem with George McClellan is that he’s relatively unknown outside the US and even in the US few think about him now.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/14 "2017-03-24T23:09:04Z")

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[hijack]

> [@scr4](#):
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> George W. Bush

If there is ever a movie about the Trump presidency made, I demand that there be a throw away shot of GWB watching Trump at a Press Conference on TV, raising his hand, pointing, and saying,

**“Now _THAT_ man is an _Idiot_…!”**

[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/15 "2017-03-24T23:29:50Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The problem with George McClellan is that he’s relatively unknown outside the US and even in the US few think about him now.

A fine trainer of armies though.

> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> [hijack]
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> If there is ever a movie about the Trump presidency made, I demand that there be a throw away shot of GWB watching Trump at a Press Conference on TV, raising his hand, pointing, and saying,
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> **“Now _THAT_ man is an _Idiot_…!”**
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> [/hijack]

How many millions of casualties is Trump responsible for ?

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**Author:** ![tuesdayweld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@tuesdayweld](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tuesdayweld)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/16 "2017-03-24T23:34:59Z")

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Remember Dan Quayle?

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/17 "2017-03-24T23:52:43Z")

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As a Hoosier by Choice, definitely Dan Quayle.

Also, Ed Wood, although I think since the movie came out, people have a soft spot for him. I remember how he was ridiculed before the movie, though. Wow.

Burt Bacharach. Jeff Altman of _Pink Lady and Jeff_. Fred Silverman of NBC, the man who came up with such hits as _Pink Lady and Jeff_.

Also, for the long-time-gone, but not forgotten, award, Colley Cibber.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/18 "2017-03-25T00:27:13Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Carrot Top?

Well, maybe before he started juicing. I don’t think anyone ridicules him _to his face_. CT will fuck you up!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/19 "2017-03-25T00:49:12Z")

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Nixon and Dubya have to be at the top of the list.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-ridiculed-individuals-in-history/782952/20 "2017-03-25T01:02:47Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> . . . Burt Bacharach. . . .

??

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