# Most undeserving celebrity? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129 "2004-10-25T22:00:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/21 "2004-10-25T22:55:40Z")
Yet another vote for Paris Hilton. How about Jennifer Love Hewitt? And Joan Rivers-which goes double for her annoying twit of a daughter, Melissa. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/22 "2004-10-25T22:56:30Z")
(Forgot to add): And, let’s also not forget, our boy Conan graduated magna cum laude from Harvard in 1985 with a B.A. in American History. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/23 "2004-10-25T23:11:31Z")
Conan’s cool… He has made me laugh… I would agree with Paris Hilton, but lets have a look at some other ones… I watch Tough Crowd sometimes, but only because of the other guys on there. Also, does anyone have a good nomination for actors/actresses? I’ll go ahead and suggest Vin Diesel. I haven’t seen any of his movies, but it seems to me like he just got thrust upon us as the next big Hollywood superstar. I never saw him coming. I don’t know if he’s so undeserving, but is he really deserving of the level of celebrity that he has? I mean even Arnie and the other guys had to work their way up through their Commandos, etc. I mean I just woke up one day and this guy named Vin Diesel is some new name that is supposed to get my attention, being bandied around like something that has always been. okay enough of that. I’ll go for the music. Dave Matthews Band. I hate that crap because its all the same. They’ve sounded the same for as long as I’ve known them. Also overrated… any kind of Rock and Roll that sounds like Nickelback, including Nickelback. Also underserving in my opinion is any new celebrity that gets made a star too quickly. Is it just me or are they just thrusting them on us now? I see all of these new pretty people and its hard for me to get up to date. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/24 "2004-10-25T23:13:03Z")
Kevin Costner. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/25 "2004-10-26T00:01:40Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#): > > I’ve always had a special place in my heart for the two world’s greatest no-talent bimbos, Charo and Melanie Griffith. > > . As Spectre of Pithecanthropus pointed out Charo is an extremely talented guitarist. In fact she studied with Segovia who is quite possibly the best classical guitarist ever. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/26 "2004-10-26T00:48:50Z")
Bob Saget. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/27 "2004-10-26T01:03:19Z")
Ok, ok, I will retract my Charo heresy! I am re-issuing my opinion as follows: Charo is a \*mono-\*talented bimbo. And I must acknowledge the genius of the Paris Hilton nomination, **Mr. Nlue Sky**. I’m tempted to declere a winner, until I am reminded of America’s rich history of hacks riding the coattails of their more talented friends or family. Isn’t that where Sandra Berhard comes from, isn’t she buds with Madonna or somebody? And Arsenio Hall? Don’t get me started on Madonna. Anyway Sandra Bernhard started me thinking about Sondra Locke. You can throw the three of them together as getting into the industry as somebody’s main squeeze, IIRC I hesitate to name singers or musicians, as they usually have _some_ modicum of talent, if only keeping a rhythm. I don’t know enough about contemporary music to pick out the biggest twit among the new generation of “artists”. There was a time in her life Joan Rivers was funny rather than frightening. However, Melissa certainly is in the running. I’m trying to think of some 50s-60s beefcake actor. Tall, red-complected, thick brow ridge, seem to be in a lot of Roman movies. I can’t some up with his name. I thought maybe Raymond Massey, but I googled a picture and it wasn’t him. Kind of like Johnny Weismuller with an American accent, and not so actually athletic. Damn, I can’t quite lay my hand on the name. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/28 "2004-10-26T01:10:41Z")
William Hung wasn’t bad, he didn’t take himself seriously and people thought he was funny. Conan is an ok celebrity too. I think Anna Nicole is near the top of the list. The kids of presidents, celebrities and royalty belong on the list too. ---
**Author:** ![mike1dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@mike1dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mike1dog)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/29 "2004-10-26T01:16:00Z")
How soon we all forget. How about Kato Kaelin? ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/30 "2004-10-26T01:18:00Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#): > > I’m trying to think of some 50s-60s beefcake actor. Tall, red-complected, thick brow ridge, seem to be in a lot of Roman movies. I can’t some up with his name. I thought maybe Raymond Massey, but I googled a picture and it wasn’t him. Kind of like Johnny Weismuller with an American accent, and not so actually athletic. Damn, I can’t quite lay my hand on the name. Victor Mature? ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/31 "2004-10-26T01:19:14Z")
Carrottop. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/32 "2004-10-26T01:20:54Z")
Oh, Kato’s worthless, but he didn’t come looking for fame as if he deserved it, like that…\…Paris Hilton. Of course, he gets major demerits for wallowing in the slop once he landed in it. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/33 "2004-10-26T01:22:18Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#): > > I’m trying to think of some 50s-60s beefcake actor. Tall, red-complected, thick brow ridge, seem to be in a lot of Roman movies. Victor Mature? (But he’s not red-complected.) Stephen Boyd? Help me out a little, I might be able to give you the guy’s name. (I’m quite the movie buff.) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/34 "2004-10-26T01:24:33Z")
I tend to think of the children of presidents as victims of rather than performers on the media. Except for the ones who pursue a career in the public eye. Ooh, I hadn’t thought of Royal Family members. There’s a whole new can of worms. And I thought it would be trouble topping Paris Hilton! Look how soon! All the little princlings and and pretenders to thrones across the world… On the whol it’s hard to imagine a more undeserving group, but on the plus side it’s hard to single out one as any more worthkess than any other. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/35 "2004-10-26T01:25:44Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Victor Mature? Sounds more like [Steve Reeves](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0716302). Victor Mature was of a (slightly) earlier time. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/36 "2004-10-26T01:27:56Z")
Hey, that was me, not BrotherCadfael! And Steve Reeves sounds like a good candidate. I don’t know if he’s red-complected, though. (And Mature, while more active in the 50s, did do work in the 60s so, y’know, it could be him. He’s certainly got that eyebrow ridge thing going on.) ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/37 "2004-10-26T01:33:41Z")
> [@yosemite](#): > > Hey, that was me, not BrotherCadfael! He’s three posts ahead of you. The problem with it being Victor Mature is that he only made 2 films in Italy, whereas Reeves made all but 2 of his films in Italy. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/38 "2004-10-26T01:36:14Z")
> [@yosemite](#): > > Victor Mature? (But he’s not red-complected.) Stephen Boyd? Help me out a little, I might be able to give you the guy’s name. > > (I’m quite the movie buff.) YES, Victor Mature. [Here’s an action shot of him](http://imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1035/Mptv/1035/4161_0007.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Mature,%20Victor) , and maybe why I thought of him as red-faced. 😕 [Here’s another.](http://www.hollywoodcultmovies.com/assets/images/VictorMature1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/39 "2004-10-26T01:47:44Z")
Moving this from IMHO to Cafe Society. My entry is a no-talent third rate magician called John Edward. ---
**Author:** ![Leopard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee7513/32.png) [@Leopard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leopard)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129/40 "2004-10-26T02:04:38Z")
Halle Berry. Firstly, she was a lousy casting choice as Storm in the X-Men movies, then she screws up “Die Another Day” and then now she’s Catwoman. Oh yeah, they gave her an Oscar for Best Actress, too. :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-undeserving-celebrity/271129.md?page=3)