# Most untalented movie directors with lengthy careers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 30, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631 "2007-10-30T21:25:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/21 "2007-10-31T13:18:10Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] How about **William “One Shot” Beaudine**? His nickname came from his unwillingness to reshoot ANY scene. And he remade really BAD 1950s science fiction and horror films into EVEN WORSE 1960s films, taking **The She Creature** and turning it into **Creature of Destruction** , or **Invasion of the Saucer Men** and turning it into \*\*Invasion of The The Star Creatures \*\* (sic – which shows how little thought and effort he put into this. See the MST3K vilification of this one) [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064415/](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064415/) [/QUOTE] Sorry to nitpick, but I think the MST3K show you’re referring to had the movie _Attack of the Eye Creatures_ directed by Larry Buchanan. The title card did indeed say “Attack of the the Eye Creatures”. One of the funniest MST3K episodes. Michael Bay still has a career (because his shitty movies make money). Maybe it hasn’t been “lengthy” compared to some others, but it’s definitely been too long already. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/22 "2007-10-31T13:21:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Sorry to nitpick, but I think the MST3K show you’re referring to had the movie Attack of the Eye Creatures directed by Larry Buchanan. The title card did indeed say “Attack of the the Eye Creatures”. One of the funniest MST3K episodes. You’re right – I mistook Larry Buchanan’s 1950s remakes for Beaudine’s work. My fault. Beaudine’s the guy who did **Billy the Kid vs. Dracula** and **Jesse James meets Frankenstein’s Daughter** , which isn’t any improvement (except technically – at least the film is clean-looking. Buchanan’s stuff looks like he shot it through mud.) ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/23 "2007-10-31T13:35:47Z")
The Incredible Shrinking Woman DC Cab St. Elmo’s Fire The Lost Boys Cousins Flatliners Dying Young Falling Down The Client Batman Forever A Time to Kill Batman and Robin 8mm Flawless Tigerland Bad Company Phone Booth Veronica Guerin The Phantom of the Opera The Number 23 OK, a few of these movies are actually good. But I think that is because the ‘director’ was too imcompetent to screw it up. (1981- how long lord, how long) Joel Schumacher, you are the hackiest hack of Hacktown. Put the megaphone down, and back away from the set. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/24 "2007-10-31T13:43:13Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] How about **William “One Shot” Beaudine**? His nickname came from his unwillingness to reshoot ANY scene. And he remade really BAD 1950s science fiction and horror films into EVEN WORSE 1960s films, taking **The She Creature** and turning it into **Creature of Destruction** , or **Invasion of the Saucer Men** and turning it into \*\*Invasion of The The Star Creatures \*\* (sic – which shows how little thought and effort he put into this. See the MST3K vilification of this one) [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064415/](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064415/) [/QUOTE] Wow – taking a second look at his entry, I see his directing career spanned **61 years** , from 1915 to 1976, as movies went from silent one-reelers to just before _Star Wars_. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/25 "2007-10-31T13:49:25Z")
I don’t care what Roger Ebert says, Spike Lee is a hack. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/26 "2007-10-31T13:52:36Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] I don’t care what Roger Ebert says, Spike Lee is a hack. [/QUOTE] Amen. So is Woody Allen. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/27 "2007-10-31T13:56:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Wow – taking a second look at his entry, I see his directing career spanned 61 years, from 1915 to 1976, as movies went from silent one-reelers to just before Star Wars. See post #4. ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/28 "2007-10-31T14:18:21Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] See post #4. [/QUOTE] You recommend this particular movie? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/29 "2007-10-31T14:32:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by CalMeacham > See post #4. > > You recommend this particular movie? ?? I’m not recommending any Beaudine movie, just pointing out that the 61-year career has already been explicitly pointed out. I don’t think I’d recommend any Beaudine flick, although, as I’ve said, **Ten Who Dared** is probably the best choice of what I’ve seen. It’s Disney hiostory, though, so take it with plenty of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/30 "2007-10-31T15:58:19Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] I challenge you to name a more financially successful director with less artistic talent. He’s not so much a director as he is a wedding photographer. [/QUOTE] Raja Gosnell is coming up fast on the outside track. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/31 "2007-10-31T16:19:34Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] Joel Schumacher, you are the hackiest hack of Hacktown. Put the megaphone down, and back away from the set. [/QUOTE] I would argue Tony Scott gives Schumacher a run for his money, since he’s made a whole lot of crap (and yes, I’m including _True Romance_, which has a rather inexplicable cult following) but never a movie as good as **Tigerland**. Still, Schumacher has him on sheer volume and diversity of badness; at least with Scott, most of his films are bad in the same, inevitably LOUD, blue-filtered way. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/32 "2007-10-31T17:31:57Z")
Kevin Costner…need Isay more? ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/33 "2007-10-31T18:49:50Z")
I just want to say that I think Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay suck hardcore. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/34 "2007-10-31T19:45:19Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] The Incredible Shrinking Woman … Joel Schumacher [/QUOTE] That can’t be true, can it? Oh, no! It _is_ [true](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082558/). ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/35 "2007-10-31T23:54:48Z")
Had to pop back in to mention **David Lynch**. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/36 "2007-11-01T01:57:14Z")
David Lynch?? I vote for Fred Olen Ray. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/37 "2007-11-01T03:22:42Z")
I just popped in to make sure that Schumacher was listed. As far as I’m concerned there’s him and then there’s everybody else. Truly astounding. ---
**Author:** ![TripleTee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@TripleTee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TripleTee)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/38 "2007-11-01T07:10:17Z")
Quentin Tarantino. I have never understood why anyone likes his crap. I think he is the most overrated director in the history of filmmaking. I am sure many would disagree with me. But that’s the way I see it. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/39 "2007-11-01T09:52:50Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] Had to pop back in to mention **David Lynch**. [/QUOTE] Lynch is _inscrutable_, and makes hard-to-understand films, but they’re art. Like them or hate them, you can write a dissertation on each one of his films – even the execrable DUNE – and someone else could write an equally credible dissertation disagreeing with you. Try writing a dissertation on anything **Brett Ratner** has churned out. He’s got connections, and it looks like he’ll have a lengthy career re-imagining the complex works of Schumacher and Columbus so that they’re lighter and easier for the modern audience to understand. Or better yet: sequels! ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631/40 "2007-11-01T15:53:03Z")
[QUOTE=TripleTee] Quentin Tarantino. I have never understood why anyone likes his crap. I think he is the most overrated director in the history of filmmaking. I am sure many would disagree with me. But that’s the way I see it. [/QUOTE] I for one agree with you,I’ve always thought that QTs movies are formulaic and designed to shock in a juvenile way. IMO his films are not so much for watching as for young males to talk about afterwards. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-untalented-movie-directors-with-lengthy-careers/424631.md?page=1)