# Most vile STAR TREK characters

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 17, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534 "2010-08-17T16:23:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/41 "2010-08-17T21:32:56Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The idiots who drafted the Prime Directive.

(1) Not a character  
(2) Not vile

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/42 "2010-08-17T21:37:37Z")

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\<ahem-ahem-ahem\>Space Nazis\</ahem-ahem-ahem\>

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/43 "2010-08-17T21:51:07Z")

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The idiot who designed the Ultimate Computer that killed a lot of Starfleet personnel in an exercise when it went awry. Even worse, if successful, it would have put Captain Kirk on the unemployment line

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/44 "2010-08-17T22:00:40Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> –hell, even that blonde chick who fell in love with Apollo – would have all told Khan to go fuck himself.

Yes, that sounds just like something Starbuck would say.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/45 "2010-08-17T22:43:44Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> > [@Bricker](#):
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> > This. Do you really let the entire colony die? He made a call. It didn’t turn out well.
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> Besides, his daughter was hawt!

Naw, I kept on waiting for Raymond Burr to show up.

What’s his Romulan face who wiped out Vulcan in the reboot seems like the obvious choice to me. And he had an ugly starship too.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/46 "2010-08-17T22:44:03Z")

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Nero, from the 2009 reboot. He destroyed like 50+ spaceships full of ppl, destroyed Vulcan (killing billions) and tried to destroy Earth, all because he was having a 25-year snit-fit. He COULD have used his trip back in time to save his planet, but decided to kill billions instead.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/47 "2010-08-17T22:46:15Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> The idiot who designed the Ultimate Computer that killed a lot of Starfleet personnel in an exercise when it went awry. Even worse, if successful, it would have put Captain Kirk on the unemployment line

Daystrom was also crazy, remember; his idealism and ego were his ruin, but he wasn’t evil.

> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> > [@RitterSport](#):
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> > _snerk_
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> > Jack the Ripper from the TOS was pretty vile. Especially since he stole Winnie the Pooh’s voice to terrorize women.
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> > Marla McGivers is pretty bad, though, although she did end up saving Kirk’s life, right?
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> I’ll grant that. She was still a spineless wimp, though, even by the standards of TOS women. Uhura, Chapel–hell, even that blonde chick who fell in love with Apollo – would have all told Khan to go fuck himself.

I can’t remember if they tried to get the actress back for TWOK, or not-wasn’t there a short snippet of dialogue in the film where Khan talked about her dying during one of the ion storms or something?

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/48 "2010-08-17T22:53:00Z")

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[A little bit of both.](http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Marla_McGivers)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/49 "2010-08-17T23:05:07Z")

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Heck, can anyone explain why Khan’s crew in Trek 2 looked like a bunch of California surfers / _Road Warrior_ gang members (i.e. all white and punked out) when the original episode made a point about what an ethnically and racially diverse group they were?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/50 "2010-08-17T23:07:08Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And the members of the Selection Board that made Janeway a Captain.

How to feel about those noble fellows who made her an Admiral? 🙂

I vote Neelix. Good gad man, have you seen his _feet_?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/51 "2010-08-17T23:07:25Z")

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There’s also, first mentioned in the Original Series’s “The Savage Curtain”, and then expanded on in Enterprise, the infamous “Colonel Green”, whose actions, we’re told, led to the death of 37 million people during the Third World War, and who, after the cease fire ending it, ordered the euthanasia of hundreds of thousands suffering from radiation sickness, so there’d be no risk of them polluting the human bloodline with harmful mutations.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/52 "2010-08-17T23:14:23Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> > –hell, even that blonde chick who fell in love with Apollo – would have all told Khan to go fuck himself.
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> Yes, that sounds just like something Starbuck would say.

Starbuck would have slept with Kahn and slit his throat. 🙂

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/53 "2010-08-17T23:24:05Z")

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Hey, there’s a difference between vile and evil.

I’ve gotta go with those two slugs that had been Janeway and Paris . . . that mated with each other. Ewwwwwww, that is vile.

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**Author:** ![FrigidLizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@FrigidLizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrigidLizard)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/54 "2010-08-17T23:44:57Z")

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I always thought that Alixus from the DS9 episode “Paradise” was particularly vile; She strands her the colonists deliberately, allows some to die to prove her theories, enacts corporal punishment, and is in general very manipulative and ruthless.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/55 "2010-08-17T23:45:54Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Hey, there’s a difference between vile and evil.
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> I’ve gotta go with those two slugs that had been Janeway and Paris . . . that mated with each other. Ewwwwwww, that is vile.

Yeah, I quit driving so fast after I saw that.

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/56 "2010-08-17T23:56:24Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Heck, can anyone explain why Khan’s crew in Trek 2 looked like a bunch of California surfers / _Road Warrior_ gang members (i.e. all white and punked out) when the original episode made a point about what an ethnically and racially diverse group they were?

'Cuz that was the look which was hot for its time.

Just like Elizabeth Taylor’s _Cleopatra_ had a distinctive 60s feel to her hairstyle etc…

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/57 "2010-08-18T00:25:57Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> and who, after the cease fire ending it, ordered the euthanasia of hundreds of thousands suffering from radiation sickness, so there’d be no risk of them polluting the human bloodline with harmful mutations.

Now there would have been a fucking funny screenshot of names.

Dr. Charles Xavier  
Dr. Henry McCoy  
Jean Gray  
Robert Drake  
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/58 "2010-08-18T00:30:51Z")

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This one drives me crazy: it’s Khan not Kahn. Thats not a small difference. He’s Indian, not Jewish

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/59 "2010-08-18T00:39:04Z")

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“I’ve done far worse than kill you, Admiral. I’ve hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left her; marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet… buried alive! Buried alive…!”  
Cohen!!!

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-vile-star-trek-characters/550534/60 "2010-08-18T00:51:54Z")

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_spittake_

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