# Most violent movie and scene?

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**Created:** [August 11, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555 "2008-08-11T01:59:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrBelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@MrBelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrBelding)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/21 "2008-08-11T14:10:45Z")

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[QUOTE=WormTheRed]  
This thread wouldn’t be complete without the [bodycount](http://www.bockscar.de/blog/index.php?/archives/794-John-Rambo-Bodycount.html) in the latest Rambo.

Over a hundred killed in the end battle alone.  
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Not to mention the way that they are killed is especially bad. They were either blown to bits or just decapitated from the gun Rambo was firing.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/22 "2008-08-11T15:22:27Z")

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I have yet to see a movie with a body count comparable to **Hard Boiled**. Three hundred killings, in two hours. That averages out to five deaths every two minutes. **Rambo** , which I haven’t seen yet, has 236 according to IMDb, but it’s only an hour and a half long, so the ratio’s almost exactly the same. Of course, technically there were about 1,500 deaths on the _Titanic_, so maybe some more factors need to be considered…

So what’s the OP looking for, mass slaughter? One on one brutality? Infliction of pain? Gore? If you’re asking what movie will test a viewer’s endurance to the utmost extreme, the worst I’ve found so far is called **August Underground’s Mordum**. It’s made in “simulated snuff” style, simulating a group of psychotic serial killers videotaping themselves on their nightly exploits. The producers, Toe Tag Pictures, are very very good at blood and gore effects. This is not a movie you can watch with your good friends; they’ll never look at you the same way. It crosses lines. I had made a spoiler box with some of the really bad stuff, but I thought better of it; you’ll just have to search the web for reviews.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/23 "2008-08-11T15:43:03Z")

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I guess if I were to vote for a few movies, I’d go with the following:

\*\*Reservoir Dogs \*\* - In particular the “ear” scene or just Mr. Orange’s overall condition througout the film. I don’t think anyone ever looks at the song “Stuck in the Middle With You” the same after seeing this flick.  
\*\*Starship Troopers \*\* - Seemed to be 2 hours of gratuitous scenes of Mobile Infantry being torn apart by giant bugs.

**Robocop** - Another Paul Voorhoven classic. Also gratuitously violent.

**Day of the Dead** - Assholes being torn apart by zombies who then proceed to eat their innerds is always a crowd-pleaser.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/24 "2008-08-11T15:49:52Z")

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How about the torture scene (of Oliver Reed!) in **The Devils**

> **[The Devils (1971) ⭐ 7.8 | Biography, Drama, History](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/)**
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> 1h 51m | X

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/25 "2008-08-11T16:27:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Max Torque]  
Of course, technically there were about 1,500 deaths on the _Titanic_, so maybe some more factors need to be considered…  
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By that standard, you’ve got to include _Star Wars_. They blew up a planet. How many billions of people were living there when the Death Star got it? Spread out across a two hour movie, that’s got to be a at least fifteen million deaths per minute.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/26 "2008-08-11T16:31:51Z")

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[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04]

[QUOTE=bouv]  
Not violent in the “crazy amounts of gore/people killed/maimed” sense, but violent in the “holy shit I want some brain bleach after watching that” is the curb scene in **American History X.**  
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Absolutely freaked me out, blew me away. Good call!

Joe  
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Yeah. I think it was the sound more than anything. The sound of teeth on concrete.

::shudder::

Certainly not the goriest, but definitely disturbing.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/27 "2008-08-11T16:53:58Z")

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Joe Pesci getting beaten to death with a baseball bat…That one was pretty damn disturbing.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/28 "2008-08-11T17:11:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
By that standard, you’ve got to include _Star Wars_. They blew up a planet. How many billions of people were living there when the Death Star got it? Spread out across a two hour movie, that’s got to be a at least fifteen million deaths per minute.  
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Yeah–I was thinking Dr. Strangelove.

Are there any movies in which the universe is destroyed?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Emily\_Litella](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emily_litella/32/3370_2.png) [@Emily\_Litella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emily_Litella)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/29 "2008-08-11T17:14:39Z")

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I’d have to go with Wolfs Creek. A friend who’s into horror rented it because it was supposed to be based on actual events. It’s about a psycho in the Australian Outback kidnapping and torturing tourists. I regret ever watching and remembering this movie.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/30 "2008-08-11T17:25:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
Are there any movies in which the universe is destroyed?  
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Can’t think of any movies, but there is a Futurama episode where they have to destroy an entire nebula in order to prevent chronitons from causing time to skip.

Yep…you heard me.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/31 "2008-08-11T17:25:32Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
How about the torture scene (of Oliver Reed!) in **The Devils**

[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/)  
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Absolutely. **The Devils** would have been a serious contender for ‘most violent movie’ if there had been just a _few_ more killings, scenes of torture, etc. No shame, though. It would surely be high on my list of ‘most disturbing’ movies, and maybe even number 1.

(Hey, has that be done before . . . ‘most disturbing movie’? . . . Maybe I should start a thread on it.)

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/32 "2008-08-11T18:11:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Emily Litella]  
I’d have to go with Wolfs Creek. A friend who’s into horror rented it because it was supposed to be based on actual events. It’s about a psycho in the Australian Outback kidnapping and torturing tourists. I regret ever watching and remembering this movie.  
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Oh crap, yes, hearty second–that movie freaked me right the fuck out and I’m known for my strong stomach for gross movies. It’s an atmospheric thing rather than an outright gorefest thing, the whole movie is creepy and scary as hell.

“Hostel” was pretty bad, in a soul deadening way, after a while it was just meat which is horrifying in another way entirely.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/33 "2008-08-11T18:15:11Z")

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[QUOTE=bouv]  
Not violent in the “crazy amounts of gore/people killed/maimed” sense, but violent in the “holy shit I want some brain bleach after watching that” is the curb scene in **American History X.**  
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Yup. I will never ever get over that scene and shudder when I think about it.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/34 "2008-08-11T18:17:13Z")

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Okay, for real…

I can’t even read this thread for Og’s sake!

That scene in American History X will hanut me forever…

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/35 "2008-08-11T18:23:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
By that standard, you’ve got to include _Star Wars_. They blew up a planet. How many billions of people were living there when the Death Star got it? Spread out across a two hour movie, that’s got to be a at least fifteen million deaths per minute.  
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Except that it’s only violent in an abstract, impersonal videogame/movie sense. All you see is a planet vaporize. You aren’t witness the pain, suffering or horror of a billion voices crying out and then suddenly silent (unless you are Obi-Wan). The various close-ups of Rebel pilots screaming as their X-wings catch fire and break apart is far more violent.

If you want to go that route, I recommend the \*\*Terminator \*\* films. Lots of close up and personal robot on human violence, billions perishing in nuclear fire, more robot on human action, etc.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/36 "2008-08-11T18:44:30Z")

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The final sequence of **Bonnie and Clyde** is up there.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/37 "2008-08-11T19:08:03Z")

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Another vote for American History X’s curb scene. I have broken my teeth on concrete before, so it’s especially unnerving. Sounds that conduct through your head are bad enough, but that one…

Most disturbing move? Requiem for a Dream. Best movie I never want to watch again. Other movies show the nasty things we really do to others. That one shows pretty well what we do to ourselves.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/38 "2008-08-11T19:29:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Talon Karrde]  
Taxi Driver isn’t really that violent by today’s standards, even for mainstream movies.  
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Well, every subsequent maker of violent films used it as a starting point, so in that sense it may seem a little tame. But the scene where Travis Bickle shoots the john’s fingers off before killing him had more impact than all the gunshot wounds in **Sin City** and **Mr. and Mrs. Smith** combined. A lot of “violent” movies show gunshot wounds to be about as consequential as a bee sting.

Few movies before or since have shown just how devastating a bullet can be. **Taxi Driver** really brought it home.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/39 "2008-08-11T19:41:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
Are there any movies in which the universe is destroyed?

Daniel  
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One of the alternate cuts of [Supernova](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134983/) has this happening.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-violent-movie-and-scene/459555/40 "2008-08-11T19:51:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
… Are there any movies in which the universe is destroyed? …  
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(Arguably) [_The Quiet Earth_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quiet_Earth_(film)).

CMC +fnord!

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