# Mother drives daughter to fight

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396 "2008-10-17T16:34:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/21 "2008-10-18T01:00:46Z")

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This is how it was handled when I was in school. I was party to (and by that I mean directly involved in) more than one ‘meet me at the park’ fights.

My mother’s advice to ignore trouble did not work. My father’s advice to not start a fight but always finish one did work. It only took a couple of knock-down drag-out brawls to establish that I was Not To Be Fucked With. One such fight was kind of a double date. My sister against one girl, and me against another. When sister and I got home, we found out both other sets of parents had called ours. Both other sets of parents were told that ours knew about the fight beforehand, and that neither my sister nor I would be punished for it. That, as I recall, was the last fight.

Neither of us ever got into trouble so long as we could honestly say ‘Dad, I did not throw the first punch.’

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/22 "2008-10-18T03:25:06Z")

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Why does it not surprise me that the “Mom With No Brain” is about 90 lbs. overweight? Yea, stereotypes.

All that being said and, FWIW, pay attention boys and girls:

**Don’t do anything without assuming that it’s being caught on video.**'Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/23 "2008-10-18T14:54:11Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> But I kind of have to wonder…if two twelve-year-old **boys** had agreed on a meeting to settle their differences via fistfight, and if one of them had asked his **father** for a ride to the scene of the battle, would everyone still be so indignant about the parent’s permitting the fight?

I think so. The same thing happened when I was in 7th grade except this was a mother who encouraged her son to fight someone. Certainly my parents were rather disgusted by her behavior.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/24 "2008-10-19T02:23:46Z")

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WTF was the OTHER mother doing there to get the episode on video? Filming her daughter beating up the first girl? Is this the new urban rite of passage? “Oh, honey! Stacy was in her first fist fight! Here, I’ll send you the video from my cell phone!”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/25 "2008-10-19T18:23:18Z")

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Thinking more about it, all the adults involved in this need to be arrested. Want to go assault another kid? How about we break into a few houses on the way, maybe knock over a convenience store? The adults in a child’s life are supposed to teach them that breaking laws is bad, not drive them to it.

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**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/26 "2008-10-19T18:29:20Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> I thought this was a much more recent episode (this one from Jan 2008 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1031377/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1031377/)) - the mother drove her boys to a fight, and made sure they brought their baseball bats (if memory serves, it was her idea to have the fight, too - someone had swiped their basketball, and the mother didn’t want the boys to let that situation stand).

Y’know, it’s possible. We’ve been watching them in order from the beginning on Netflix. I must have slipped a current episode in there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/27 "2008-10-19T20:15:10Z")

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Only once did I see adults and parents get excited about watching kids fight. I was around 12 myself. A neighborhood bully had been beating the rest of us kids up on a regular basis. He was bigger than most of us, we were all afraid of him. another kid that lived a block away and was a “jock” kinda guy confronted him in the middle of the street telling him “He was tired of watching him pick on kids smaller than he was” and proceeded to kick his ass in full view of every window on the street.

Looking back, it is sad that none of the adults stopped it. (but the kid did need a lesson and his parents didn’t do anything about him picking on other kids…I know. My mother went to his house and spoke to his parents before the incident. The result? He beat me up the next day at school for ratting on him.) I certainly would have tried to break it up between those girls and I don’t have any kids.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/28 "2008-10-19T21:19:38Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Kids can’t just fight in the heat of the moment? They have to arrange fight dates? And get driven there?
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> I’m so out of touch with child-rearing.

The first rule of Fight Club is that your Mum doesn’t drive you to Fight Club.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/29 "2008-10-19T23:18:58Z")

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My mother would have laughed in my face had I asked for a ride to a fight date.

Actually, knowing my mother, she would have driven me to the fight date and made me apologize.

I have never been in a fight, and that’s why.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/30 "2008-10-20T00:28:14Z")

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Hmm… Fight dates.

So just out of curiosity, what constitutes first base, second base, etc?

And at what point are you going steady or whatever they call it these days?

ETA: And are you gay for dating someone of your own sex?

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**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/31 "2008-10-20T09:43:52Z")

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> [@Bookkeeper](#):
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> WTF was the OTHER mother doing there to get the episode on video? Filming her daughter beating up the first girl? Is this the new urban rite of passage? “Oh, honey! Stacy was in her first fist fight! Here, I’ll send you the video from my cell phone!”

It wasn’t the mother filming it. It was a friend of the girl who was winning. She showed it to the mother afterwards.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-drives-daughter-to-fight/468396/32 "2008-10-20T10:20:38Z")

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I saw this on a TV show…laughed so hard I thought I was gonna hurl.

[http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5755974](http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5755974)

\*It may be only the eighth most outrageous moment in sports history but it is definitely the most humiliating. Imagine getting your butt whipped in a boxing match and then having your mom climb into the ring to defend you with her shoe.

In a 1989 fight for the British light-heavyweight championship Tony Wilson got knocked down in the third round by Steve McCarthy, but that wasn’t the decisive blow. Wilson’s mom Minna Wilson then sprang into the ring and started beating McCarthy with her high-heeled shoe, opening a gash on his forehead that required four stitches to close. When McCarthy refused to continue, the victory was awarded to Wilson — Tony, not Minna. \*

See? It pays to take an interest in your kid’s life! :dubious:

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