# Mother puts baby in dryer. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511 "2005-12-07T15:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/41 "2005-12-08T15:18:14Z")
Surprise surprise: > [@nola.com link](#): > > Authorities said Adams, who also has a 13-month-old daughter, was apparently tired of Jailand’s crying and may have been suffering from postpartum depression, a hormonal imbalance linked in rare cases to mothers exhibiting psychotic behavior toward their newborn children. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/42 "2005-12-08T15:20:07Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > If she’s guilty, the help she needs comes in a pair of 50cc syringes. First one, phenobaratol. Second one, potassium-saline. Or it could come at the end of a rope, or in an airtight room with potassium cyanide gas. > > Then again, this is Louisiana… Yeah, because we celebrate people who kill babies down here. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/43 "2005-12-08T23:02:05Z")
It doesn’t matter, IMO, if you’re a nutter, or just a sick fuck, people who do stuff like this get no quarter from me. You can fix this problem in four easy steps. 1. dig hole 2. stand (criminal) in front of hole 3. shoot (criminal) in the forehead 4. fill hole back in No, it’s not elegant. No, it’s not politically correct. No, it’s not even merciful, but you know what, it doesn’t matter in the least WHY she did it, just that she did. Despite all of the rhetoric, humans, just like any other mass produced “product” can be defective to the point they need to be returned. Sure, it’s hypocritical to kill the killer, but in the name of saving just one MORE life than the one you took, IMO, it’s worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/44 "2005-12-09T00:04:11Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > It doesn’t matter, IMO, if you’re a nutter, or just a sick fuck, people who do stuff like this get no quarter from me. You can fix this problem in four easy steps. > > 1. dig hole > 2. stand (criminal) in front of hole > 3. shoot (criminal) in the forehead > 4. fill hole back in > > No, it’s not elegant. No, it’s not politically correct. No, it’s not even merciful, but you know what, it doesn’t matter in the least WHY she did it, just that she did. Despite all of the rhetoric, humans, just like any other mass produced “product” can be defective to the point they need to be returned. Sure, it’s hypocritical to kill the killer, but in the name of saving just one MORE life than the one you took, IMO, it’s worth it. Aaaah…with all the flair and grace of a Nazi war criminal to boot! I knew there was sumpn’ good gonna come from the war! I KNEW IT! ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/45 "2005-12-09T01:27:12Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Aaaah…with all the flair and grace of a Nazi war criminal to boot! I knew there was sumpn’ good gonna come from the war! I KNEW IT! Silly man, a true Nazi war criminal would have the condemned person dig their _own_ grave. Say what you want about the Germans; they’re damned efficient. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/46 "2005-12-09T01:58:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think we have a natural instinct not to murder our own children. Murder is of course taboo everywhere, murdering children a step beyond that, and murdering them in such a macabre way a step beyond that. It’s behavior that is so far out of the norm that I have a hard time believing that a sane person would ever do it. Around 600 children under the age of 5 are murdered every year. Of those 60% are killed by a parent. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/47 "2005-12-09T03:12:04Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Silly man, a true Nazi war criminal would have the condemned person dig their _own_ grave. Say what you want about the Germans; they’re damned efficient. Thanks for the laugh, I needed it (I’m serious). ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/48 "2005-12-09T07:33:06Z")
> [@](#): > > **Scumpup** : We put down rabid dogs because they are sick and dangerous, even if they were beloved pets. Rabid dogs are not generally covered under due process. > [@](#): > > **buttonjockey308** : Sure, it’s hypocritical to kill the killer, but in the name of saving just one MORE life than the one you took, IMO, it’s worth it. But the problem with that thinking is that when you become the killer, then someone has to kill _you_ and so on. It really doesn’t make sense to start. That’s why many of us assume that she was nuts. _Most_ people aren’t thrilled at the idea of killing other people. When a baby is murdered by a mother, I just automatically assume that it is post-natal psychosis. I can’t help it. That’s just the first thing that comes to mind. That doesn’t mean I’m not willing to change my mind. If I were a police investigator, I wouldn’t make that assumption, but I would certainly keep it in mind. I think there are probably more women who suffer from post natal psychosis than there are women who murder their children intentionally. When a person is psychotic, they are brain-damaged. It may not last forever, but it’s real. I hope it never happens to anyone you love. By the way, Andrea Yeager is getting a new trial, I believe. (Wasn’t that her name?) ---
**Author:** ![PrehensileRectum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PrehensileRectum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrehensileRectum)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/49 "2005-12-09T09:11:28Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > By the way, Andrea Yeager is getting a new trial, I believe. (Wasn’t that her name?) Andrea Yates ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/50 "2005-12-09T10:17:50Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > There are some actions so horrific that they simply cannot be done by a person that is mentally competent. So…I guess most of the Japanese Army in Nanking was made up of uncontrollable lunatics, then? A little Haldol and they all would have been happy campers? Look, I’m just saying that a person can do plenty of awful, screwed-up stuff without having to drag “crazy” in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/51 "2005-12-09T12:04:00Z")
How about we all wait and find out what the truth is here? She could just be a selfish bitch, or she could be psychotic, and if anyone thinks we have enough information to know the difference right now, I’d hate to have you on a jury. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/52 "2005-12-09T13:22:31Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > 1. dig hole > 2. stand (criminal) in front of hole > 3. shoot (criminal) in the forehead > 4. fill hole back in Your plan goes completely to shit if the criminal falls forward. ---
**Author:** ![ms.deanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@ms.deanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ms.deanna)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/53 "2005-12-09T17:59:34Z")
> [@slaphead](#): > > Hmmm. If shes going to be locked up for the rest of her natural, then isn’t the middle step a little redundant? And what’s the first step supposed to accomplish, other than make you feel better? > > I can’t say that I’m too surprised that a schoolgirl with two kids at the age of eighteen has ended up as a horrific headline and an advertisement for birth control. There’s a reason why having kids is normally reserved for slightly later in life these days. > > [non-Fox linky with more background](http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/metro/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1134027521231650.xml) ``` I lost my mind for a minute. Now that I see how that sounded, I apologize. :o ``` ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/54 "2005-12-09T18:12:53Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > Your plan goes completely to shit if the criminal falls forward. I am so going to hell for laughing at this. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/55 "2005-12-09T18:46:41Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Aaaah…with all the flair and grace of a Nazi war criminal to boot! I knew there was sumpn’ good gonna come from the war! I KNEW IT! From Zero to Godwin in 44 posts… :rolleyes: Look, **Kalhoun** no one is talking about the war, there was no reason what-so-ever to bring it up, but there it is. So by your logic then, it’s the fault of the current administration and the Iraq war that this poor defective soul killed her innocent child in the fucking CLOTHES DRYER. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: My opinion, therefore, that when you kill your child in such a manner, that the resultant punishment ALSO be death, stems from the ideals of the current administration and the Iraq War. You are either an idiot, an antagonist, or devoid of reason, perhaps a mixture of the three. Or, maybe you’re just lacking the faculties required to have a civilized argument about a divisive issue like this one. In any case, please piss off. **Uvula Donor** … HA! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/56 "2005-12-09T19:11:04Z")
We define insanity so arbitrarily in this country. People who commit horrible crimes have some sort of emotional/mental reason for doing so, in 100% of cases. We label some as insane and others as sane, it has nothing to do with science, it has to do with our pure emotional reaction to the stimulus. The harder it is to comprehend their actions the more likely it seems they are insane. Some people are sadistic and cruel, and generally a lot smarter than the state psychiatrists who examine them, sometimes because of this intelligence and awareness of their own actions, they get executed, other times they play the psychiatrist and get an insanity plea. I mean does it really matter if the woman was insane? She put her baby in the dryer, I’d say she was insane, but I don’t know that whether or not she was insane should have anything to do with what happened to her. I think punishing her in some extreme fashion would be more about emotional satisfaction for the direct victims and the Hoi Polloi than anything else. I simply don’t think her mental capacity really factors into it. Executions are about gestalt, not justice. So I say fuck it, fry the bitch, it doesn’t really matter one way or another. It’s a good thing because it will entertain people like the ones posting in this thread. I mean, how is a woman who puts her baby in the dryer more or less insane than a man that beats his wife to death in a drunken rage? What’s the difference, there was some mental/emotional issue at play in both instances, some lack that was not addressed in their lifetime. I would say we might want to remove such sickness from the gene pool, make sure it doesn’t get passed on. Unfortunately though, the psychiatric industry has decided that human behavior itself is a disorder, from fidgeting(ADHD), to worrying about work (OCD), to having an overactive imagination (Schizophrenia), or having your up days and down days, (Manic Depression). So what exactly seperates the sane from the insane these days? Why is one murder insane when another isn’t? Is there more to it than simply an emotional reaction to a stimulus that disturbs us? Why is it worse to kill a baby than a grown man? Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/57 "2005-12-09T19:12:27Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > Your plan goes completely to shit if the criminal falls forward. Shoot them with the right calibre slug, and you can very easily determine which way the body will fall. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/58 "2005-12-09T19:21:10Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Aaaah…with all the flair and grace of a Nazi war criminal to boot! I knew there was sumpn’ good gonna come from the war! I KNEW IT! From Zero to Godwin in 44 posts… :rolleyes: Look, **Kalhoun** no one is talking about the war, there was no reason what-so-ever to bring it up, but there it is. So by your logic then, it’s the fault of the current administration and the Iraq war that this poor defective soul killed her innocent child in the fucking CLOTHES DRYER. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: My opinion, therefore, that when you kill your child in such a manner, that the resultant punishment ALSO be death, stems from the ideals of the current administration and the Iraq War. You are either an idiot, an antagonist, or devoid of reason, perhaps a mixture of the three. Or, maybe you’re just lacking the faculties required to have a civilized argument about a divisive issue like this one. In any case, please piss off. **Uvula Donor** … HA! ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/59 "2005-12-09T21:16:40Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > From Zero to Godwin in 44 posts… :rolleyes: > > Look, **Kalhoun** no one is talking about the war, there was no reason what-so-ever to bring it up, but there it is. So by your logic then, it’s the fault of the current administration and the Iraq war that this poor defective soul killed her innocent child in the fucking CLOTHES DRYER. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: No, sweetie. The war reference was regarding WWII. You know…the one with _Nazis_? Those guys you emulate when you decide to put bullets in people’s skulls and let them fall into graves? Follow along. Use your finger if necessary. > [@](#): > > My opinion, therefore, that when you kill your child in such a manner, that the resultant punishment ALSO be death, stems from the ideals of the current administration and the Iraq War. > > You are either an idiot, an antagonist, or devoid of reason, perhaps a mixture of the three. Or, maybe you’re just lacking the faculties required to have a civilized argument about a divisive issue like this one. In any case, please piss off. Heil, muthafuckah. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511/60 "2005-12-09T21:32:42Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Shoot them with the right calibre slug, and you can very easily determine which way the body will fall. I think the position of the criminal is of far greater importance than the slug used. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-puts-baby-in-dryer/334511.md?page=4)