# Mother sets fire to her daughter's gloating rapist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363 "2009-02-25T14:27:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/161 "2009-02-26T03:57:22Z")
> [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](#): > > How is intentionally burning someone alive a proportionate response to anything? > > If someone harmed my daughter I would find it very hard not to get medieval on them. But if I did so I would be in the wrong. **Flawed as it is that’s the only way a civilised society can function.** > > If it had led him to no longer taunt the mother, then yes, it “woulda learned him”. Is this really true? Is a society in which men can freely rape women’s daughters without fear of death the only way a civilized society can function? For fun I would like to argue the opposite. All male rapists of females should be sentenced to immediate death. The reason is that genes for raping people are highly exploitative. They will tend to spread in the gene pool. Further, it is relatively straightforward for a single man to rape hundreds of women, thus hastening the propagation of these genes. As a society if we do not kill all rapists as soon as they are discovered then genes for raping will quickly proliferate. Jailing rapists is only acceptable if it is a life sentence. Perhaps this alternative is even more civilized. As a society we should fund basic science research into identifying genes for raping. We should then screen all citizens for these genes. Until a drug is developed that can inhibit their expression and which they are forced to take these citizens should either be killed or jailed for life. Truly, that is civilized. Does anyone doubt we will confront these political issues in our lifetime? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/162 "2009-02-26T04:21:30Z")
Lot simpler to just go with the gas and a match. ---
**Author:** ![ajb867](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/163 "2009-02-26T05:11:27Z")
She deserves a medal. My heart does not bleed for someone who commits an act of rape then taunts the mother about it. This is no different then someone poking a lion with a sharp stick he got what he deserved. ---
**Author:** ![katannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@katannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katannah)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/164 "2009-02-26T05:22:04Z")
> [@ajb867](#): > > She deserves a medal. My heart does not bleed for someone who commits an act of rape then taunts the mother about it. > > This is no different then someone poking a lion with a sharp stick he got what he deserved. Except the lion isn’t answerable to the laws of the Spanish government for not committing violence on the idiot poking him. I can sympathize, I can commiserate, I can understand. But I can’t condone. And I’m saying this as someone who would seriously consider the same action - and the consequences of said action - and weigh the former against the latter. If I break the law, I wouldn’t expect a reprieve just because I did it out of revenge. The “temporary incinerator” comment made me giggle. I forgot I wanted to mention that earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/165 "2009-02-26T06:39:57Z")
> [@](#): > > you ignorant asshole > [@Muffin](#): > > OK, mods, what’s the ruling. Not a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/166 "2009-02-26T06:55:16Z")
> [@alterego](#): > > Is this really true? Is a society in which men can freely rape women’s daughters without fear of death the only way a civilized society can function? I like to think that one essential for a civilized society is that one citizen should not be permitted to decide that another citizen is worthy of being doused in gasoline and set afire, acting as judge, jury and executioner. If we’re to allow summary punishment by private individuals in one case, why not all? ---
**Author:** ![Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petrobey_Mavromihalis)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/167 "2009-02-26T07:22:48Z")
> [@alterego](#): > > Is this really true? Is a society in which men can freely rape women’s daughters without fear of death the only way a civilized society can function? > > For fun I would like to argue the opposite. All male rapists of females should be sentenced to immediate death. The reason is that genes for raping people are highly exploitative. They will tend to spread in the gene pool. Further, it is relatively straightforward for a single man to rape hundreds of women, thus hastening the propagation of these genes. As a society if we do not kill all rapists as soon as they are discovered then genes for raping will quickly proliferate. Jailing rapists is only acceptable if it is a life sentence. > > Perhaps this alternative is even more civilized. As a society we should fund basic science research into identifying genes for raping. We should then screen all citizens for these genes. Until a drug is developed that can inhibit their expression and which they are forced to take these citizens should either be killed or jailed for life. > > Truly, that is civilized. > > Does anyone doubt we will confront these political issues in our lifetime? Hmmmm. That’s a fairly long screed arguing against a point I didn’t make. I said that in a civilised society we have to respect the law and not take it into our own hands. I’m amazed that a fair few people appear to disagree with this. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/168 "2009-02-26T07:46:59Z")
I like it because its a deterrant, hopefully. oh not to the rapist, but anyone thinking or inclined towards it. Hey maybe if i rape someone, I could get killed in a painful way by their relative. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petrobey_Mavromihalis)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/169 "2009-02-26T08:01:28Z")
You edited that post? ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/170 "2009-02-26T08:03:54Z")
Yes? ---
**Author:** ![Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petrobey_Mavromihalis)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/171 "2009-02-26T08:10:43Z")
Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/172 "2009-02-26T08:21:11Z")
It was a spelling thing. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/173 "2009-02-26T10:16:37Z")
> [@Tamara+](#): > > I like it because its a deterrant, hopefully. oh not to the rapist, but anyone thinking or inclined towards it. > Hey maybe if i rape someone, I could get killed in a painful way by their relative. > Yep. …and maybe that relative will get killed by your relative. And so on…like a shampoo commercial. Where does it end? If everyone just decides randomly that their actions are morally justifiable, can’t we all just go neanderthal and start killing everyone who doesn’t behave the way we _personally_ want them to? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/174 "2009-02-26T10:40:59Z")
Although I’d find it far easier to forgive taking a life under these circumstances than doing it in cold blood under the sanction of the state, it doesn’t advance civilisation one iota to allow crimes like this to be dealt with leniently. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/175 "2009-02-26T10:56:59Z")
I wonder if you who say the woman must be punished would be satisfied with trial, conviction and probation (any more rapist fires and she goes to jail) or if you think she should serve time in a jail cell, and if so, how long? How much more suffering do you want to inflict on this woman? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/176 "2009-02-26T11:52:46Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I wonder if you who say the woman must be punished would be satisfied with trial, conviction and probation (any more rapist fires and she goes to jail) or if you think she should serve time in a jail cell, and if so, how long? How much more suffering do you want to inflict on this woman? Did you read the link? > [@](#): > > Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca. > > While there, he passed his victim’s mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack.\*\* He is said to have called out “How’s your daughter?”\*\*, before heading into a crowded bar. > > Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out. Was it the way he said it that made it a taunt? How do we know he wasn’t genuinely concerned? Do we accept the word of a woman who was described as mentally ill? ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/177 "2009-02-26T12:54:59Z")
I burning your rapist? /DRTFA ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/178 "2009-02-26T13:30:08Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I wonder if you who say the woman must be punished would be satisfied with trial, conviction and probation (any more rapist fires and she goes to jail) or if you think she should serve time in a jail cell, and if so, how long? How much more suffering do you want to inflict on this woman? I think I would be ok with probation and treatment, or a lenient jail sentence (under a year would be ok by me). I recognize that the woman is ill, but I certainly wouldn’t feel good about her simply walking away completely. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/179 "2009-02-26T13:32:35Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > How do we know he wasn’t genuinely concerned? Why am I not surprised? If you were concerned about one of your victims, would you call out to her in public a question like “Have you fixed the window yet?”, then go into a pub? Wouldn’t an apology be in order, or possibly _not_ making a beeline for the victim’s home town as soon as you are physically capable? > [@](#): > > Do we accept the word of a woman who was described as mentally ill? What’s the absolute worst-case alternative? Because even if it was entirely unprovoked, I’m _still_ glad that she killed the child-raping bastard who had the balls to return to the scene of the crime during his weekend off. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363/180 "2009-02-26T13:50:03Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > possibly _not_ making a beeline for the victim’s home town as soon as you are physically capable? To be fair, it is also his home town. Anyway, threads like this always sadden me. Killing people should _never_ be OK, but no-one seems to agree with me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mother-sets-fire-to-her-daughters-gloating-rapist/487363.md?page=10)