# Moto: Loathesome Pustule

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370 "2005-06-22T15:02:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/81 "2005-06-23T17:17:16Z")

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> [@tagos](#):
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> Then why the fuck did it take a pit thread then?

Your question needs to be adressed to that oversensitive whining bag of stale piss who started the thread. Horrors, he was told that cooking weird Jewish conspiracy theories puts him in unsavory company! He couldn’t master a mild rebuke,-oh no,- he had to hold his breath, puff himself up with gas up to the gills and then puke his stench so wide everyone can smell it.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/82 "2005-06-23T17:20:23Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> that oversensitive whining bag of stale piss

You?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/83 "2005-06-23T17:26:24Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Hopefully, some rabid left types here will learn a good lesson from **Mr. Moto** honorable action. That’s what decent people do when they commit even a slight mistake: they offer apologies, openly and sincerely, just like **Mr. Moto** did.

I look forward to your apology for everything you’ve ever posted on this board.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/84 "2005-06-23T17:27:03Z")

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Lay off, please, **New Iskander**.

I screwed up here, and I’d much rather live down my error than have it held up as any kind of credit on my part.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/85 "2005-06-23T17:29:36Z")

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Well said, sir! And honorably intended, I have no doubt.

On such a positive note, I request the Mods close this thread.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/86 "2005-06-23T17:41:50Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Your question needs to be adressed to that oversensitive whining bag of stale piss who started the thread. Horrors, he was told that cooking weird Jewish conspiracy theories puts him in unsavory company! He couldn’t master a mild rebuke,-oh no,- he had to hold his breath, puff himself up with gas up to the gills and then puke his stench so wide everyone can smell it.

Nobody “cooked” any “weird Jewish conspiracy theories.” **Moto** insinuated that **'Lucy** may have had some kind of anti-semitic motive for wondering aloud if neocon policies towards Israel may have played any role in GWB’s eagerness to invade Iraq (an eagerness that _preceded_ 9/11, I might add).

After being called out in a pit thread, **Moto** conceded that he had been overly heated (which happens to all of us…I’m the fucking king of it sometimes) and that he had gone too far with a suggestion about **'lucy** that he (Moto) did not really believe. "Lucy accepted, and that was that.

Whether Moto would have eventually done the same without a Pit thread, I don’t know. He may well have, but the Pitting at least got his attention and got some other people to prevail on him to reconsider his remarks, which to his credit he did. I havn’t often, or maybe ever, been on the same side of an argument as Mr. Moto, but in general I haven’t found him to be an overly dirty sort of debater, the “Jew hater” innuendoes were out of character for him and I think just represented a bit of a bad hair day for a guy who is usually at least civil and respectful if not always agreeable to the board’s leftist cant.

The fight is now over. The fighters have left their corners and gone back to their dressing rooms and now you’re trying to revive the original insult in an even more overt and malicious manner than Moto did. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/87 "2005-06-23T19:05:22Z")

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I just realized: I don’t know the correct procedure for asking, as OP, that a thread be closed. Must be a result of my mild-mannered temperment. Yes, that must be it.

Might someone more knowledgeable carry my water?

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/88 "2005-06-23T19:09:03Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I look forward to your apology for everything you’ve ever posted on this board.

I’m sorry if what I ever said offended you.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/89 "2005-06-23T19:15:54Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> After being called out in a pit thread, **Moto** conceded that he had been overly heated (which happens to all of us…I’m the fucking king of it sometimes) and that he had gone too far with a suggestion about **'lucy** that he (Moto) did not really believe. "Lucy accepted, and that was that.

That wasn’t that. Scroll up a little and review **rjung** and **merijeek** comments, which were perfectly predictable to anyone with a shred of a cortex matter under the scull. I still ask, why didn’t **e** try to clear the matter right there, before opening the pit thread. Why didn’t he try?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/90 "2005-06-23T19:33:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I just realized: I don’t know the correct procedure for asking, as OP, that a thread be closed.

Click on the little “i” symbol to report yourself to the moderators.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/91 "2005-06-23T19:42:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I just realized: I don’t know the correct procedure for asking, as OP, that a thread be closed.

From [an old thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297055)

> [@Polycarp](#):
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> When a thread has been well answered, and continuing discussion is either merely the trading of witticisms or argumentation in a forum that does not allow for that, the Mods. will be quick to close a thread, with or without OP request.

> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> \<snip\> What they said.
> 
> We will consider a request for closure, but the reasons why do matter; it’s not automatic by any means. This is especially true if there is a greater lesson to be learned, such as, for example, that you are judged by what you say.\</snip\>

So, in other words, you can wait till a mod sees your request, but that won’t help if [del]New Iskander[/del] someone posts till the next page.

You can also email a mod, which I am doing on your behalf right now. (To Giraffe) I suspect you can also hit “Report this post” to tell them the same thing, but that sounds like an abuse of the feature.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/92 "2005-06-23T19:42:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Click on the little “i” symbol to report yourself to the moderators.

You can’t report your own post. I’ve just now reported **elucidator** ’s request.

**elucidator** , that doesn’t mean they will close it. It’s a judgement call by the moderators. Sometimes they don’t.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/93 "2005-06-23T19:50:12Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> That wasn’t that. Scroll up a little and review **rjung** and **merijeek** comments, which were perfectly predictable to anyone with a shred of a cortex matter under the scull. I still ask, why didn’t **e** try to clear the matter right there, before opening the pit thread. Why didn’t he try?

Because there’s no disagreement about **Mr. Moto’s** stratospheric levels of assholery, duh.

A quick sampler, from the 2005 Great Debates vintage:  
[Is Howard Dean screwing up as DNC chairman?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318024)  
[So is this what we can expect if leftists are allowed into Republican events?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309882)  
[No WMD in Iraq? Guess again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=307261)

I don’t know if there’s a real-life **Mrs. Moto** or not, but if she does exist, I’d nominate her for sainthood if only because of the sheer levels of arrogant assholery I imagine she has to tolerate on a daily basis.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/94 "2005-06-23T19:51:20Z")

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By no means does this unworthy one suggest any obligation on the part of They Who Sit at the Right Hand of Cecil to regard his humble pleadings with anything other than disdain. I shield my eyes from thier radiance as I cringe.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/95 "2005-06-23T20:05:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By no means does this unworthy one suggest any obligation on the part of They Who Sit at the Right Hand of Cecil to regard his humble pleadings with anything other than disdain. I shield my eyes from thier radiance as I cringe.

As long as you don’t start rending your garments.

We don’t want to have to shield our eyes as well. :eek:

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/96 "2005-06-23T20:08:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By no means does this unworthy one suggest any obligation on the part of They Who Sit at the Right Hand of Cecil to regard his humble pleadings with anything other than disdain. I shield my eyes from thier radiance as I cringe.

Don’t worry Luci, I think Tuba is the only one online right now. They will get around to closing it soon. \<insert smiley here\>

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/97 "2005-06-23T20:10:57Z")

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But I have no chocolate!

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/98 "2005-06-23T20:12:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But I have no chocolate!

Guess you are fucked then. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/99 "2005-06-23T20:17:56Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Because there’s no disagreement about **Mr. Moto’s** stratospheric levels of assholery, duh.
> 
> A quick sampler, from the 2005 Great Debates vintage:  
> [Is Howard Dean screwing up as DNC chairman?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318024)  
> [So is this what we can expect if leftists are allowed into Republican events?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309882)  
> [No WMD in Iraq? Guess again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=307261)
> 
> I don’t know if there’s a real-life **Mrs. Moto** or not, but if she does exist, I’d nominate her for sainthood if only because of the sheer levels of arrogant assholery I imagine she has to tolerate on a daily basis.

I imagine there’s some disagreement on that point. I hope there is.

There is a Mrs. Moto, and she should indeed be nominated for sainthood. I hope, though, that the reason for this isn’t my behavior. She seems to tolerate me just fine, from all appearances. We managed to have three kids inside of two years, so she must like me well enough.

You don’t like my politics. Fair enough. Among family and friends, I keep political discussions to a minimum, as is generally considered polite. This board is an outlet for me for that kind of debate, as it is for a great many people here.

Anyway, for you to accuse me of assholeish behavior only invites pot-and-kettle comments, **rjung**. I do have my faults, and often glaring ones at that. But you’re not in a position to criticize, near as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moto-loathesome-pustule/309370/100 "2005-06-23T20:25:37Z")

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> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> Anyway, for you to accuse me of assholeish behavior only invites pot-and-kettle comments, **rjung**. I do have my faults, and often glaring ones at that. But you’re not in a position to criticize, near as I can tell.

I don’t see how. Personally, I see him as often criticizing someone who deserves to be criticized, anyway.

P\>S\> This is kinda’ a hijack, but the thread will be closed soon anyway, hopefully.

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