# Movie Directors-WHY Shoot "ON LOCATION"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156 "2003-06-29T14:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/1 "2003-06-29T14:12:20Z")
My question is occasioned by the fact that I just picked up an old book (THE MAKING OF THE AFRICAN QUEEN")-which was the old Bogart-Hepburn movie. Its an interesting tale of how most of the movie was filmed in Central Africa (the Belgian Congo and Uganda)-and the tremedous cost and suffering that the actors endured. My question: when all was said and done, why didn’t they just film the thing in Florida? Most moviegoers probably couldn’t tell the difference-and in 1953, the difficultiesin filmoing in Africa must have been immense. For example, most of the cast came down with malaria, and it was quite dangerous out in the jungle. So, given these days where we have digital photography and special effects, why would you film a movie on location? Say you were doing something on ancient egypt-wouldn’t the Mojave desert suffice? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/2 "2003-06-29T14:26:04Z")
The decision to do location shoots probably varies by individual film. Many could (maybe should) have been done on sound stages or in locations more easily/cheaply acquired. My own guess is that working on location often costs less than using sets on studio lots. I’ve heard that the main reason many movies go to Canada is for much lower union costs. If you’ll browse IMDB and check the filming locations of various films, you’ll find that many are selected for the authenticity of setting. Others for “similar” mood of setting. Etc. I doubt there’s a generic answer to the question. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/3 "2003-06-29T17:13:34Z")
Sometimes you can get the look you’re going for by faking the location; either on a studio lot or in a less exotic location. Sometimes you just can’t. But the rule of thumb is that, for the look of the film, it’s virtually _always_ better to be at the actual location. Let’s say you’re filming Toronto for New York (pretty common in lower budget films). This really limits your shots; you can’t decide at the last minute to go very wide, or it’s going to become obvious you’re not really in New York. Faking the location can really limit your shots. But sometimes, of course, the decision of actual location/faked location is restricted by budget. And sometimes it’s restricted by logistics. But as far as The African Queen goes… I don’t know for sure, but I’m going to guess that back when The African Queen was made, it was probably considered good publicity and quite a draw to be able to say ‘filmed on location in Africa’. I’d guess that’s one of the main reasons they did it; not for budgetary or realism reasons, but for promotional reasons. That’s just a guess, though. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/4 "2003-06-30T15:32:24Z")
I just saw Roman Holiday, and they have a huge title card that says “Filmed on Location in Rome, Italy”. Seems like it was quite a selling point at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/5 "2003-06-30T17:35:18Z")
There’s another reason: When you shoot a movie on the studio lot, producer types watch your every move, make “creative suggestions,” and generally interfere with the day-to-day of making a movie. If you’re on location in Tunisia, they have less opportunity to do that. (In an interview with _The Comics Journal,_ Jules Feiffer–who wrote the screenplay for _Popeye_–offered that as an explanation of why director Robert Altman shot the movie in Malta when nothing in it couldn’t have been shot just as well on a soundstage or some other California location.) ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/6 "2003-06-30T17:50:14Z")
In some cases, creative types care a lot about “purity” and “honesty” to the source material. The more pragmatic of us would say “Psha! nobody can tell the difference.” But if the director is established enough, studios will make concessions to satisfy the director’s vision. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/7 "2003-06-30T17:54:30Z")
Or maybe the director just wants to visit the place in question. “Yes my tahiti movie must be filmed in Tahiti…” Brian ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/8 "2003-06-30T18:06:32Z")
See the Clint Eastwood movie, _White Hunter, Black Heart_ for a true (though fictionalized) story of one of the reasons John Huston wanted to shoot _The African Queen_ on location. It’s based on a novel by Huston’s assistant. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/9 "2003-06-30T18:15:11Z")
“Hawaii Five-O” and “Magnum P.I.” were TV shows that made quite a bit of telling people that they were filmed in Hawaii. That seemed to be a big draw. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/10 "2003-06-30T18:59:41Z")
I can’t imagine the budget for recreating Middle Earth on a soundstage… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/11 "2003-06-30T21:35:37Z")
Sometimes you can really tell when a TV show or movie is not shot on location - thanks to reruns of _M_A_S_H\* and _Black Sheep Squadron_ I know what the hills outside LA look like, especially when they’re supposed to represent Korea or the South Pacific. If you’re filming an epic movie that takes place in Scotland, you get realism by filming in Scotland. If it happens in Egypt, yeah, you could probably film in the Mojave and hire dark-skinned extras and rent camels, or you could film in Egypt with local extras who are used to being around cames and get a certain level of authenticity. It also helps when audience members who’ve been to a place your movie happens in can say “Hey! I’ve been there! Cool!”. It establishes your surroundings if your character who lives in San Francisco walks out of his apartment and the skyline with the Transamerica tower is visible over his shoulder. Or if your Muscovite protaganist walks down a sidewalk and the camera cleanly pans up from him, across the rooftops, and fades out on the Kremlin. That’s why films like _The X-Files_, where the early part of the film is supposed to happen in Dallas, caused Texas audiences to break out in laughter - Dallas was represented as a city surrounded by desert scrub with mountains in the distance - I suppose maybe it was Dallas, NM? It ruins what you’re trying to create if blatant errors distract your audience because you didn’t think filming on location was important. Even George Lucas realizes this - that’s why, when huge parts of his current crop of _Star Wars_ movies are being filmed in studios with digital backgrounds, he’s still packing up and going to Tunisia to film the Tatooine sequences - because that’s what it should look like and the audience would notice differences. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-directors-why-shoot-on-location/185156/12 "2003-06-30T21:42:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*There’s another reason: When you shoot a movie on the studio lot, producer types watch your every move, make “creative suggestions,” and generally interfere with the day-to-day of making a movie. If you’re on location in Tunisia, they have less opportunity to do that. (In an interview with _The Comics Journal,_ Jules Feiffer–who wrote the screenplay for _Popeye_–offered that as an explanation of why director Robert Altman shot the movie in Malta when nothing in it couldn’t have been shot just as well on a soundstage or some other California location.) \*\* If that’s true, then “Popeye” stands as a perfect example of why studio execs SHOULDN’T allow directors to shoot on location! Maybe if a studio exec had SEEN what a mess Altman was making of the film, he’d have shut down production, or replaced Altman with a COMPETENT director in time to avert the catastrophe that is “Popeye.”