# Movie discussion boards for "Thank You for Smoking" and "Hot Coffee" perfectly show how ridiculous neoconservative ideology is

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 12, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-discussion-boards-for-thank-you-for-smoking-and-hot-coffee-perfectly-show-how-ridiculous-neoconservative-ideology-is/971465 "2022-09-12T19:50:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-discussion-boards-for-thank-you-for-smoking-and-hot-coffee-perfectly-show-how-ridiculous-neoconservative-ideology-is/971465/21 "2022-11-02T18:45:47Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Where in a free society do we protect people from themselves? You didn’t have to buy any pack of smokes in your life.

And the cigarette companies didn’t have to lie about their product; they chose to do it. If individuals are expected to bear the consequences for the choices they make, then corporations (and the people who run them) should bear the consequences for their choices, too. They lied; they bear some of the responsibility that people believed them.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-discussion-boards-for-thank-you-for-smoking-and-hot-coffee-perfectly-show-how-ridiculous-neoconservative-ideology-is/971465/22 "2022-11-02T18:54:08Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> And when they die because of the bad “choices”, the people who would benefit either don’t know that these others died, or believe it’s fake news.

So you’re saying that people these days are poorly built to handle the complexities of the real world and how to learn from it?

How did that arise?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-discussion-boards-for-thank-you-for-smoking-and-hot-coffee-perfectly-show-how-ridiculous-neoconservative-ideology-is/971465/23 "2022-11-02T23:07:23Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> How did that arise?

Me, I blame trump.

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