# Movie identification thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 3, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081 "2020-05-03T20:24:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/1 "2020-05-03T20:24:58Z")

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I saw a movie on TV during some creature double feature in the early 80s, and it’s sort of stuck with me.

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It was from the 60s or 70s, with a Hammer Horror/William Castle vibe.

The scene I remember was a coven of witches in a dimly lit room with one of the witches being judged. The coven called forth the image of a woman, and as the witch was looking at it, the image turned into a skeleton (This effect was super cheesy. It was obvious that the actress playing the image was standing behind a pane of glass, and the skeleton image was just superimposed). The leader of the coven--an older man--held up a baby's shoe, and the shoe was engulfed in flames while you could hear the sounds of a baby crying (Note that the baby itself was not shown). The witch being judged began to scream, and the rest of the coven attacked her.

Any clues? TIA
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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/2 "2020-05-03T21:24:43Z")

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The Brotherhood of Satan with Strother Martin?

That’s all I got…coven movies and numerous.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/3 "2020-05-03T21:43:39Z")

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> **[Race with the Devil (1975) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073600/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_90)**
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> Race with the Devil: Directed by Jack Starrett. With Peter Fonda, Warren Oates, Loretta Swit, Lara Parker. Two couples vacationing together in an R.V. from Texas to Colorado are terrorized after they witness a murder during a Satanic ritual.

I was thinking Race With The Devil

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/4 "2020-05-03T23:00:41Z")

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I’ll check them out. Many thanks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/5 "2020-05-03T23:56:08Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> The Brotherhood of Satan with Strother Martin?
> 
> That’s all I got…coven movies and numerous.

I checked out trailers on Youtube, and it is indeed **Brotherhood of Satan**.

God_damn_, you guys are good.

Maybe _too_ good. 😃

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/6 "2020-05-05T04:41:26Z")

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> [@Linty\_Fresh](#):
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> I checked out trailers on Youtube, and it is indeed **Brotherhood of Satan**.
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> God_damn_, you guys are good.
> 
> Maybe _too_ good. 😃

Hey thats on you and serendipity. I had just happened to see a trailer for Brotherhood of Satan three days ago and you mentioning a ‘baby shoe’ made it all click and reminded me I had actually seen the damn thing decades ago.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Sean\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/7 "2020-05-07T10:19:21Z")

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Are we allowed to ask about other movies we wonder about here, or would that be hijacking the thread? Title is a bit ambiguous on that point.

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“Stay the blazes home” - Stephen McNeil, Premier of Nova Scotia

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/8 "2020-05-07T11:56:06Z")

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> [@Sean\_the\_Dog](#):
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> Are we allowed to ask about other movies we wonder about here, or would that be hijacking the thread? Title is a bit ambiguous on that point.
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> * * *
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> “Stay the blazes home” - Stephen McNeil, Premier of Nova Scotia

I’m not the boss of this thread, but I vote “yes”. Also, I have got to watch the OP’s movie. Sounds delightfully cheesy.

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/9 "2020-05-07T13:31:39Z")

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> [@Sean\_the\_Dog](#):
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> Are we allowed to ask about other movies we wonder about here, or would that be hijacking the thread? Title is a bit ambiguous on that point.

Hey, I’m cool with it. Finding that movie was one of the high points of my week. I pretty much grew up with those monster movie matinee flicks, and there are so many of them that I vaguely wonder about (although the answer to 80% of the IDs has the words “Hammer Horror” in there somewhere). If I could help ID a movie for someone else, that’s just icing on the cake.

Lay it on us!! 🆒

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/10 "2020-05-07T13:43:21Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Hey thats on you and serendipity. I had just happened to see a trailer for Brotherhood of Satan three days ago and you mentioning a ‘baby shoe’ made it all click and reminded me I had actually seen the damn thing decades ago.

Oh, also I forgot to thank you for the ID. Thanks, it might not seem like much, but believe me, this question has been gnawing at me for a couple of months. You helped me sleep better at night.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Sean\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/11 "2020-05-08T10:23:51Z")

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The reason I asked…

Flipping stations very late one night in the mid-90s, I stumbled across a movie that upset me enough to walk away from (plus I had to get up for work in the morning) but fascinated me enough to wonder what it was ever since. My memory or understanding may be faulty, but here goes:

Stalin-era Russia (definitely NOT Nazis, although the rest my seem like it should be). All I remember was people standing in front of doors that didn’t open, and then getting shot in the head. A mass extermination. There were several doors and several lineups. This went on for some time. No heads were shown exploding, but one victim was a prostitute who was puffing her last smoke at the time, and the cigarette was shown hitting and sticking to the door as part of a mess. People would talk briefly as they lined up, and then boom. Everything was done emotionlessly, almost as if in a documentary.

I also remember something about a huge pile of bodies outside a building (execution chamber?) being loaded into a truck.

Any ideas?

Thank You All.

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“Stay the blazes home” - Stephen McNeil, Premier of Nova Scotia

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/12 "2020-05-08T12:36:57Z")

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> [@Sean\_the\_Dog](#):
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> The reason I asked…
> 
> Flipping stations very late one night in the mid-90s, I stumbled across a movie that upset me enough to walk away from (plus I had to get up for work in the morning) but fascinated me enough to wonder what it was ever since. My memory or understanding may be faulty, but here goes:
> 
> Stalin-era Russia (definitely NOT Nazis, although the rest my seem like it should be). All I remember was people standing in front of doors that didn’t open, and then getting shot in the head. A mass extermination. There were several doors and several lineups. This went on for some time. No heads were shown exploding, but one victim was a prostitute who was puffing her last smoke at the time, and the cigarette was shown hitting and sticking to the door as part of a mess. People would talk briefly as they lined up, and then boom. Everything was done emotionlessly, almost as if in a documentary.
> 
> I also remember something about a huge pile of bodies outside a building (execution chamber?) being loaded into a truck.
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> Any ideas?
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> Thank You All.
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> “Stay the blazes home” - Stephen McNeil, Premier of Nova Scotia

That does sound disturbing. I hope someone can identify it so I can see :eek:🙂

Mine is a hazy, weed influenced memory…

This would have been around 1988, though I couldn’t say what year the movie was from. I was at someone’s house and we were hanging out and the tv just happened to be on but we weren’t actively watching it so I only have bits and pieces.

The film was black and white and seemed to be set in an orphanage or some kind of house where many children lived.There was a woman in charge and she was the stereotypical evil character. I don’t remember the plot or too much more about what was going on. Only that there was . . a meat grinder in the basement and children were being ground up. _No, I am not conflating it with the Pink Floyd video._

I remember being horrified and wondering why my friend wasn’t having any reaction, though again, we weren’t really watching it so she might not have caught any of it. I was kind of freaked out for the rest of the day.

Ring any bells for anyone?

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/13 "2020-05-08T21:18:13Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> That does sound disturbing. I hope someone can identify it so I can see :eek:🙂
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> Mine is a hazy, weed influenced memory…
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> This would have been around 1988, though I couldn’t say what year the movie was from. I was at someone’s house and we were hanging out and the tv just happened to be on but we weren’t actively watching it so I only have bits and pieces.
> 
> The film was black and white and seemed to be set in an orphanage or some kind of house where many children lived.There was a woman in charge and she was the stereotypical evil character. I don’t remember the plot or too much more about what was going on. Only that there was . . a meat grinder in the basement and children were being ground up. _No, I am not conflating it with the Pink Floyd video._
> 
> I remember being horrified and wondering why my friend wasn’t having any reaction, though again, we weren’t really watching it so she might not have caught any of it. I was kind of freaked out for the rest of the day.
> 
> Ring any bells for anyone?

You sure it wasn’t a Simpsons episode on a black and white tv??

I cant find anything that matches all that but id like to.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/14 "2020-05-08T21:25:30Z")

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double

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-identification-thread/853081/15 "2020-05-09T01:29:04Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> You sure it wasn’t a Simpsons episode on a black and white tv??
> 
> I cant find anything that matches all that but id like to.

Ha! I know _The Simpsons_ has been around for a long time, but I think this predates it. Definitely nothing cartoon like or amusing about this flick.

Again, I could be completely missremembering, but it had a “foreign vibe”. This was a Saturday afternoon so it was most likely one of those cheesy movies they used to show on things like \*Elvira \*and _Sinister Cinema_.I seem to remember the grinder scenes being shown in silhouette against the basement wall. Again again, I am not thinking of PF’s video, though perhaps their video was inspired by this. It was defintly made long before _The Wall._
