# Movie Marathon (Part 1)

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**Created:** [August 17, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780 "2019-08-17T02:03:06Z")\
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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart

A comedy short with Shemp Howard(but no ‘good’ Stooges)

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart
6. Mary Poppins (1964) - Julie Andrews

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6106 "2020-07-22T16:27:32Z")

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart
6. Mary Poppins (1964) - Julie Andrews
7. The Cry Baby Killer (1958) - Jack Nicholson

Julie Andrews actually provided a voice in the 1952 English dub of La Rosa di Bagdad, an Italian cartoon, but Mary Poppins was her first on-camera movie role.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6107 "2020-07-22T17:23:44Z")

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart
6. Mary Poppins (1964) - Julie Andrews
7. The Cry Baby Killer (1958) - Jack Nicholson
8. Dr. Strangelove (1964) - James Earl Jones

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6108 "2020-07-22T17:41:04Z")

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart
6. Mary Poppins (1964) - Julie Andrews
7. The Cry Baby Killer (1958) - Jack Nicholson
8. Dr. Strangelove (1964) - James Earl Jones
9. Hedda (1975) - Patrick Stewart

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6109 "2020-07-22T17:43:32Z")

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Screen debuts of later-famous actors and actresses

1. Innocent Lives (1995) - Keira Knightley
2. Taxi Talks (1930) - Spencer Tracy
3. A Bill of Divorcement (1932) - Katharine Hepburn
4. Leathernecking (1930) - Irene Dunne
5. Art Trouble (1934) - Jimmy Stewart
6. Mary Poppins (1964) - Julie Andrews
7. The Cry Baby Killer (1958) - Jack Nicholson
8. Dr. Strangelove (1964) - James Earl Jones
9. Hedda (1975) - Patrick Stewart
10. Pretty Baby (1978) - Brooke Shields

Next up, movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6110 "2020-07-22T17:49:22Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> 1. Pretty Baby (1978) - Brooke Shields

Actually, Shields’ first movie was _Alice, Sweet Alice_ (1976).

Next up, movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6111 "2020-07-22T17:55:50Z")

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6112 "2020-07-22T17:56:39Z")

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One

Gender change as well as race change – in the comic books, the Ancient One was an Asian man.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6113 "2020-07-22T18:22:00Z")

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie

In the source material, and the original draft of the script, Mills’ character is a boy, but the casting dept. is having trouble finding a young actor to handle the part. The director visits the actor already cast in the lead, John Mills, to discuss the problem, and meets his 12-yr-old daughter.

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie
6. A Beautiful Mind - Jennifer Connelly as Alicia Nash

The real Alicia Nash was a Latinx from El Salvador.

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie
6. A Beautiful Mind - Jennifer Connelly as Alicia Nash
7. Fantastic Four - Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm/Human Torch

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie
6. A Beautiful Mind - Jennifer Connelly as Alicia Nash
7. Fantastic Four - Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm/Human Torch
8. Thor - Idris Elba as Heimdall

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie
6. A Beautiful Mind - Jennifer Connelly as Alicia Nash
7. Fantastic Four - Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm/Human Torch
8. Thor - Idris Elba as Heimdall
9. Wild Wild West (1999) - Will Smith as agent James West

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6118 "2020-07-23T00:06:34Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Actually, Shields’ first movie was _Alice, Sweet Alice_ (1976).

Details…😉

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6119 "2020-07-23T00:30:18Z")

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Movies where a major character is cast as a different race/gender from the source material.

1. Shawshank Redemption - Morgan Freeman as Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding
2. Ghost in the Shell - Scarlett Johansson as Mira Killian/Motoko Kusanagi
3. Starship Troopers - Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico
4. Doctor Strange - Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One
5. Tiger Bay - Hayley Mills as Gillie
6. A Beautiful Mind - Jennifer Connelly as Alicia Nash
7. Fantastic Four - Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm/Human Torch
8. Thor - Idris Elba as Heimdall
9. Wild Wild West (1999) - Will Smith as agent James West
10. Daredevil (2005) - Michael Clark Duncan as Wilson Fisk

Pass

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Non-war movies with a major character who holds a military rank

1. Wild Wild West - Capt. James West (Will Smith)

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Non-war movies with a major character who holds a military rank

1. Wild Wild West - Capt. James West (Will Smith)
2. Scent of a Woman - Lt. Col. Frank Slade (Al Pacino)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-1/838780/6122 "2020-07-23T01:15:26Z")

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I’m guessing that peacetime military flicks like _A Few Good Men_ and _Courage Under Fire_ probably shouldn’t qualify here…

Non-war movies with a major character who holds a military rank

1. Wild Wild West - Capt. James West (Will Smith)
2. Scent of a Woman - Lt. Col. Frank Slade (Al Pacino)
3. The Hateful Eight - General Sanford “Sandy” Smithers (Bruce Dern)

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