# Movie Marathon (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801 "2021-03-26T22:06:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2423 "2021-09-22T14:05:49Z")

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**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970

1970 seems old enough, it was the year before I was born. ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2424 "2021-09-22T14:12:39Z")

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**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970
6. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2425 "2021-09-22T15:43:52Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Jane Wyman plays a deaf-mute,

Just so you know, Deaf people find the term “deaf-mute” highly objectionable.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2426 "2021-09-22T19:41:45Z")

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**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970
6. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
7. Rebecca - 1940

Famous for its barely concealed lesbian subtext.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2427 "2021-09-22T19:47:35Z")

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**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970
6. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
7. Rebecca - 1940
8. The Killing of Sister George - 1968

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2428 "2021-09-22T20:27:52Z")

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Oh! I didn’t know. What is the correct term?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2429 "2021-09-22T22:20:39Z")

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Just “deaf” or “hard-of-hearing”.

[I looked it up.]

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2430 "2021-09-23T01:23:11Z")

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What if they’re really mute?

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2431 "2021-09-23T01:26:50Z")

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If they are unable to speak, “mute” is an outmoded word that carries baggage. It’s like saying “crippled.” There is nothing with saying someone is deaf and does not speak.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2432 "2021-09-23T02:02:46Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> If they are unable to speak, “mute” is an outmoded word that carries baggage.

Well then what is the PC term for mute? Someone can have a condition that makes them unable to speak whether or not they also suffer from deafness.

Anyhoo:

**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970
6. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
7. Rebecca - 1940
8. The Killing of Sister George - 1968
9. The Danish Girl - 2015

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2433 "2021-09-23T11:55:37Z")

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[Lookin’ around, it appears to be either “nonverbal” or “silent”.]

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2434 "2021-09-23T13:13:40Z")

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Thanks for the heads up.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2435 "2021-09-23T16:37:23Z")

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[quote=“Bayaker, post:2432, topic:938801”]  
**Older films with gender non-conforming roles.**

1. Ann Vickers – 1933
2. Sylvia Scarlett - 1935
3. Johnny Belinda - 1948
4. Glen or Glenda - 1953
5. Performance - 1970
6. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
7. Rebecca - 1940
8. The Killing of Sister George - 1968
9. The Danish Girl - 2015
10. Cabaret - 1972

Movies where the con actually works out

1. Music Man

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2436 "2021-09-23T17:15:52Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2437 "2021-09-23T17:23:53Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2438 "2021-09-23T18:01:01Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting
4. Trading Places

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2439 "2021-09-23T18:18:51Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting
4. Trading Places
5. Heartbreakers

> Max (Sigourney Weaver) and Page (Jennifer Love Hewitt) are a mother and daughter con team. Max seduces wealthy men into marrying her, then Page seduces them into infidelity so Max can rake them over the divorce court coals. And then it’s on to the next victim.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2440 "2021-09-23T19:03:26Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting
4. Trading Places
5. Heartbreakers
6. Waking Ned Devine

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2441 "2021-09-23T19:31:40Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting
4. Trading Places
5. Heartbreakers
6. Waking Ned Devine
7. To Catch A Thief

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-2/938801/2442 "2021-09-23T19:52:53Z")

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Movies where the con actually works out

1. The Music Man
2. Ocean’s Eleven
3. The Sting
4. Trading Places
5. Heartbreakers
6. Waking Ned Devine
7. To Catch A Thief
8. Now You See Me

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