# Movie Marathon (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 23, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988 "2023-06-23T10:14:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 419
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8362 "2025-06-30T19:54:48Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _The Fireman’s Ball_ (1967) Czech film directed by Milos Forman. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8363 "2025-06-30T19:54:52Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _The Fireman’s Ball_ (1967) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) Some GIs shoot and kill some enemy soldiers who have their hands up saying in their native tongue, “We are Czech! Do not shoot!” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8364 "2025-06-30T19:58:21Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _The Fireman’s Ball_ (1967) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) 6. _Stripes_ (1981) “C’mon, it’s Czechoslovakia. We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again. We’re not going to Moscow. It’s Czechoslovakia. It’s like we’re going into Wisconsin.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8365 "2025-06-30T20:08:51Z")
I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8366 "2025-06-30T20:35:54Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > 1. _The Fireman’s Ball_ (1967) > > Czech film directed by Milos Forman. I did say Hollywood films. Care to find an alternative #4? BTW, your choice _is_ a great movie, one of Forman’s finest. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8367 "2025-06-30T20:43:18Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _Casablanca_ (1942) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) 6. _Stripes_ (1981) Housekeeping: Replaced #4; Victor Laszlo was a Czech resistance fighter. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8368 "2025-06-30T20:45:21Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > 1. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) > > Bond helps a KGB general escape to the West at a concert hall in Bratislava Bratislava is in Slovakia, the current Republic of Slovakia. The current Czech Republic consists of two areas called Bohemia and Moravia. The three areas were once forced to be a nation called Czechoslovakia, but that did not make Bratislava Czech in any sense. Trust me. I have relatives in both the current Czech Republic and Slovakia. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8369 "2025-06-30T20:46:49Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _Casablanca_ (1942) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) 6. _Stripes_ (1981) 7. _Hellboy_ (2004) Some scenes are in a cemetery in Prague. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8370 "2025-06-30T20:49:56Z")
Yes, but in 1987 when that movie came out it was in Czechoslovakia. Trust me. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8371 "2025-06-30T20:50:44Z")
> [@](#): > > **Hollywood films with something Czech about them** 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _Casablanca_ (1942) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) 6. _Stripes_ (1981) 7. _Hellboy_ (2004) 8. _Amadeus_ (1984) Milos Forman film that is a Hollywood film. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8372 "2025-06-30T20:55:51Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Yes, but in 1987 when that movie came out it was in Czechoslovakia. Trust me. Being “in Czechoslovakia” did not make it Czech. Bratislava has been the capital of Slovakia for centuries. Hell, I was in Czechoslovakia in 1985, and that did not make me Czech. I was in both Bratislava and Prague. Not Czech, nor Slovak-- albeit, the decades my family spent in Slovakia-- probably a little Slovak. But not Czech. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8373 "2025-06-30T21:02:01Z")
It sounds like you’re referring to a _cultural_ identity, as opposed to a _national_ identity. The OP didn’t make that distinction clear, so if my response is disallowed you should submit another more suitable submission since you were the one that successfully caught my error. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8374 "2025-06-30T21:17:06Z")
No, not really just cultural. The Czechs and the Slovaks identified as different nations, not just different cultures, and were forced to be one country in 1918. In fact, they were separate for a while during WWII, when Bohemia & Moravia were part of Germany, and Slovakia was part of Hungary. The pre-WWII borders were reestablished in 1948, with the exception of a small part that was added to the Ukraine, when they both became part of the Soviet bloc. In 1989, Czechoslovakia peacefully deposed all its Communist leaders, it what is called the Velvet Revolution. Then in 1992, by mutual consent, there was a peaceful split between the Czech and Slovak areas. Even when Czechoslovakia existed, no one ever stated that they were “Czechoslovakian.” They were Czech, or Slovak. If they had one parent of each, they were half Czech, and half Slovak. But I will leave the final call to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8375 "2025-06-30T21:58:04Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Even when Czechoslovakia existed, no one ever stated that they were “Czechoslovakian.” They were Czech, or Slovak. If they had one parent of each, they were half Czech, and half Slovak. > > But I will leave the final call to the OP. I agree that, even in the time of a united Czechoslovakia, being Slovak was not Czech. Calling anything Slovak within Czechoslovakia Czech is like calling anything Welsh, Scottish, or Northern Irish “English”. ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8376 "2025-06-30T22:00:40Z")
**Hollywood films with something Czech about them** [/quote] 1. _Pickup_ (1951) 2. _The Living Daylights_ (1987) 3. _Mission: Impossible_ (1996) 4. _Casablanca_ (1942) 5. _Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) 6. _Stripes_ (1981) 7. _Hellboy_ (2004) 8. _Amadeus_ (1984) 9. _The Founder_ (2016) Biopic of Ray Kroc, a Czech-American ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8377 "2025-06-30T22:15:23Z")
A better analogy would be calling someone who lived in Wales or Scotland as being a Briton. If you were watching the 1980 Olympics they didn’t refer to the swimmer from Bratislava as being a ‘Slovak’. That’s a culture, not a nationality. The announcers would have referred to the swimmer as being either Czechoslovakian or the shorthand “Czech” ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8378 "2025-06-30T22:22:38Z")
I have no knowledge about any Olympian, nor athlete at all, from Bratislava, but the swimmer could have been a Czech living in Bratislava. I had an aunt (Jewish) married to a Slovak, and they both lived in Prague. But no matter-- the mistake of a sports announcer does not make something fact. ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8379 "2025-06-30T22:23:14Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > A better analogy would be calling someone who lived in Wales or Scotland as being a Briton. Would it really, though? Britain is not just England. The whole country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not of England-Wales-Scotland-and-Northern-Ireland. I’ve heard of Scottish people objecting to be called “British”, if they’re not British, who is? Just the English? It doesn’t make logical sense. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8380 "2025-06-30T22:23:53Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > That’s a culture, not a nationality. And I wouldn’t say that in Bratislava-- or Smrdaky, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988/8381 "2025-06-30T22:36:46Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > That’s a culture, not a nationality. Actually, Czech and Slovak are ethnicities. They are also languages. They are very similar languages, with a high degree of mutual intelligibility. But they are also nations. The fact that they have been conquered and forced to be “Upper Hungary,” or “the German Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia,” at various times doesn’t make Bratislava Hungarian, nor Prague German. And having once been human-centipeded into a country called Czechoslovakia doesn’t make the Karlov Most Slovak, nor any of the natural spas in Slovakia, Czech. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988.md?page=418) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-marathon-part-3/985988.md?page=420)