# Movie musicals for someone who doesn't like movie musicals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 23, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-musicals-for-someone-who-doesnt-like-movie-musicals/682039 "2014-02-23T22:40:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![lew\_cody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e274bd/32.png) [@lew\_cody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lew_cody)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-musicals-for-someone-who-doesnt-like-movie-musicals/682039/61 "2014-02-26T23:58:29Z")
To add to the Busby Berkeley recommendations, there’s also _Wonder Bar_ (1934), which has mostly “performance” musical numbers as well as some distinct differences from the more famous Warner musicals. _Wonder Bar_ is set in Paris and has some dark, violent undertones that stand in contrast to the polished, Deco Moderne surroundings. (Be prepared for the “Goin’ to Heaven on a Mule” number, though; it packs most of the African-American stereotypes you can think of into a relative few minutes.) If pre-rock popular music isn’t something you like, then most musicals from that era, as well as some into the 70s, won’t please your palate very readily. But if you do enjoy vintage pop, seeing it performed in a film musical can add dimensions to your appreciation; you learn about vocal styles and orchestral arrangements that were in vogue when the songs were written, sometimes by the same performers who made a song popular originally. Here’s a number from _Springtime in the Rockies_ (1942) that seems as prototypically 1940s-movie-musical as can be: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGgzmLmjwZk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGgzmLmjwZk) “Run, Little Raindrop” is a performance number – the song itself has nothing to do with the plot of the film. The cheerful melody and lyric represent what many people dislike about musicals. Yet the little touches that Betty Grable and John Payne add to it accentuate the scenes that went before and what will follow (they portray Broadway co-stars who have an ostensible romance going, but they’re at each other’s throats because of his eye for other women). All this may be deeper analysis that the number merits, but it gives some rationale into how movie musicals (one of them, anyway) worked at the time. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-musicals-for-someone-who-doesnt-like-movie-musicals/682039/62 "2014-02-27T18:49:19Z")
> [@Octarine](#): > > What’s the difference between a sung-through musical and an opera? Snarky answer: If it’s in a foreign language and rich people watch it, it’s an opera. If it’s in English and normal people watch it, it’s a musical. Serious answer: In an opera, the performers are musicians first, and actors second. In a musical, the performers are actors first, and musicians second. In opera, your primary concern is music: Is the tune good? Can the singers hit their notes? If you happen to like the story, well, that’s nice too. In a musical, your primary concern is storytelling: Do you care about the characters? Do the characters do interesting stuff? If you happen to like the music, well, that’s nice too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-musicals-for-someone-who-doesnt-like-movie-musicals/682039/63 "2014-02-28T10:03:44Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And of course, because it’s New York City, the obliging animals are rats and pigeons. And cockroaches. The scene of the roaches scouring the bathtub is both horrible and funny. ETA that this gets lampshaded in the cartoon _Sofia the First_ where [the animals do a song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbZvoBEUaaA) that reveals that they help humans because they consider it the best way to get access to food. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-musicals-for-someone-who-doesnt-like-movie-musicals/682039.md?page=3)