# Movie Remakes are now officially out of control!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 22, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064 "2005-08-22T02:40:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/41 "2005-08-23T03:34:19Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What’s a “necessary” film?

Drivers’ ed films?  
Anti-vegan films staring Troy McClure?  
Triumph of the Will?\*

I think I get **soulmurk** ’s point. The story has been told in film, TV, not to metion the original medium, comics, several times. I don’t agree, but I think I get it.

\*Tongue in cheek. IANANazi.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/42 "2005-08-23T03:43:06Z")

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“Yours, MIne, and Ours” probably wouldn’t be so bad if they kept to the book Who Gets the Drumstick?, and did it straight. There was humor enough in the book. But the original movie made it look like the two families of children were completely at odds, when that just wasn’t so. I thoroughly disliked the original movie, and won’t see the remake.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/43 "2005-08-23T03:47:28Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> That’s **exactly** why they’re making it now, to cash in.

That’s not true. A ton of directors, writers and producers have been trying to get this movie for about 10 years. Work on this movie started way before he died. In fact, 10 years ago was about the time of his accident.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/44 "2005-08-23T04:08:15Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> Each year I’m tempted to go to 3, maybe 4 movies. I go to 2 or 3. Invariably, as I meander down the ad strewn hallways to the theater, and sit through the previews, I’m struck by how unoriginal and stale things seem to be. And every year it just seems to get worse.
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> It’s almost like they’re only willing to make: video games adapted to a movie, comic books adapted to a movie, remakes of old movies, old shows adapted to movies, or sequels.
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> The problem isn’t even where they’re drawing their “ideas” from IMO, it’s that they tend to do such an awful job of it.

Well, there is new stuff being done, but it gets no distribution.

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/45 "2005-08-23T06:13:49Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What’s a “necessary” film?

It might be easier to answer that by providing an unnecessary film for antonymous contrast: The Honeymooners. In other words, a necessary film would be one that wasn’t unnecessary by virtue of being devoid of any value.

It’s my opinion that the Batman movie didn’t really add anything to the franchise. It was a decent movie, but as **Wolfian** gets, but disagrees with, it’s all been done to death.

In the end, I paid to see it and I didn’t leave the theater comparing the producers and director’s intelligence to that of a sack of wet hampsters, so it couldn’t have been all bad.

**Marley23** , be that as it may, it’ll take more than that to convince the cynic in me. I offer that we wait until the ad campaign to see if they use his name to try and sell it.

I will give you that it’d be a fair argument that they’re doing it now because of the recent success (monetarily at least) of so many other comic-turned-movies. Though that rates only slighter higher in my book than riding the name of the deceased for a buck.

**foolsguinea** , you are of course correct. Didn’t mean to insinuate there weren’t, merely that it _seems_ like the only movies anyone is willing to make anymore are unimaginative and soulless. It’s a shame really that they’ll pump millions into hyping a bad movie, while the few good ones slide under the radar.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/46 "2005-08-23T06:21:24Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> It might be easier to answer that by providing an unnecessary film for antonymous contrast:

This doesn’t really solve the problem. It’s easy to point to a movie and say it’s unnecessary

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> **Marley23** , be that as it may, it’ll take more than that to convince the cynic in me. I offer that we wait until the ad campaign to see if they use his name to try and sell it.

Eh. I’m not interested in it anyway, but I have trouble believing they’ll use his name to sell the movie. I think many people may remember him as a disabled rights advocate instead of Superman at this point.

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> It’s a shame really that they’ll pump millions into hyping a bad movie, while the few good ones slide under the radar.

The sad fact is that most movies are so expensive to make that it seems producers won’t put up the money unless they have something with a built-in audience. I remember someone posting here that almost nothing makes money in the theatre anymore, and that the theatrical run is practically just an ad to they can sell the DVD. This applies to remakes and adaptations, and also to celebrity biopics and such. It’s a moronic and self-perpetuating system, but I didn’t do it.

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/47 "2005-08-23T06:28:36Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> This doesn’t really solve the problem. It’s easy to point to a movie and say it’s unnecessary

Agreed. Was just my opinion to begin with. One man’s trash and all.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/48 "2005-08-23T07:08:17Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What’s a “necessary” film?

[Dodgeball](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364725).

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/49 "2005-08-23T10:33:36Z")

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Piffle. When they remake _Birth of a Nation_—THAT’ll be when it’s all out of control.

That or Berman-Braga’s _Star Trek V: The Special Edition._ (Totally remastered, with Tribbles digitally added, the Caitian stripper edited out to make it more “family friendly,” and the Enterprise now gets destroyed, but restored via time travel. Then destroyed again.)

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/50 "2005-08-23T13:02:26Z")

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Miami Vice…with Colin Farrel as Sonny Crockett and Jamie Foxx as Rico Tubbs.  
[http://www.thegreenhead.com/entertainment/2005/02/first-look-miami-vice-colin-farrell-as.php](http://www.thegreenhead.com/entertainment/2005/02/first-look-miami-vice-colin-farrell-as.php)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/51 "2005-08-23T13:10:35Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> Not saying I didn’t enjoy it, it was entertaining; certainly moreso than the last few. But it was mindless entertainment: cliche, formulaic, and completely unnecessary.

On the contrary – it was vitally necessary that that Schumacher… thing… not be permitted to stand any longer as Batman’s last cinematic adventure.

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/52 "2005-08-23T22:34:45Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> MANOS 2000!!!

Starring Johnny Depp as “The Master” and Roberto Benigni as Torgo! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/53 "2005-08-24T00:08:40Z")

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The day someone announces a remake of _Logan’s Run_…THAT’S the day movie remakes are officially out of control.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/54 "2005-08-24T00:18:02Z")

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> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#):
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> The day someone announces a remake of _Logan’s Run_…THAT’S the day movie remakes are officially out of control.

[Yeah, I hope that never happens](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402344/)

😃

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/55 "2005-08-24T00:18:22Z")

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> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#):
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> The day someone announces a remake of _Logan’s Run_…THAT’S the day movie remakes are officially out of control.

They already did. Bryan Singer was all set to direct it, but he chose to make Superman Returns instead, so the Logan’s Run remake is shelved for now.

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/56 "2005-08-24T01:09:46Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> They already did. Bryan Singer was all set to direct it, but he chose to make Superman Returns instead, so the Logan’s Run remake is shelved for now.

Well, thank Og for that. There’s still hope as far as I’m concerned, as long as that movie never actually gets made.

(I swear I didn’t know they were actually considering remaking this BTW…I just tried to think of the most pointless remake I could possibly come up with)

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**Author:** ![souroranges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@souroranges](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/souroranges)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/57 "2005-08-24T01:52:14Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> Is Land of the Lost going to played for Humor & Camp or are they playing it straight? I liked the show as a kid…

According to Wile E’s link:

_Adam McKay, a former Saturday Night Live writer who directed Ferrell in Anchorman, is attached to direct, with Chris Henchy and Dennis McNicholas signing on to adapt the screenplay, the trade paper reported._

I wouldn’t doubt if they played the movie straight… with a couple of **vagina** jokes thrown in 😉

And weren’t those in the original series?!

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/58 "2005-08-24T04:36:38Z")

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I would hope that if a Logan’s Run movie was made, it would not be a remake, but rather a “make” of Nolan’s and Johnson’s novel. Sure the book was a bit of 60s nonsense, but at least the damned thing moved from nice set-piece to nice set-piece, and had a fairly good twist (Ballard’s real identity), plus I want to see the Crazy Horse scenes.

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/59 "2005-08-24T04:44:51Z")

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> [@Wile E](#):
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> Have you heard they’re making a [Land of the Lost](http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=30865) into a movie?  
> And it stars Will Farrell.  
> _Now_, it’s official.
> 
> I wouldn’t be surprised if Chris Rock has a cameo as a Sleestak.  
> [sub]Actually, I just like saying Sleestak.  
> Sleestak.  
> Sleestak.[/sub]

Yeah?

Huh?

Who is that?

Damn kids! Stop that already!

::::wandering off::::

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-remakes-are-now-officially-out-of-control/318064/60 "2005-08-24T04:47:14Z")

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> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#):
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> The day someone announces a remake of _Logan’s Run_…THAT’S the day movie remakes are officially out of control.

After I saw _Logan’s Run_ a few months ago, I felt _The Matrix_ movies owed it an awfully big debt. Not that that’s a remake, but…

Speaking of big debts, I think the last two _Matrix_ movies owe ME an awfully big debt. I’d say I’m owed about $20, plus emotional damages.

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