# Movie Romances You Found Extremely Disturbing (though they weren't supposed to be) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053 "2006-03-27T06:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/161 "2006-04-01T03:07:28Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I know in at least one cartoon Pepe never realized he was pursuing a \*non-female \* non-skunk. I believe he was also caught by his wife just before he was about to kiss the black-and-white-tomcat-with-a-white-stripe-painted-on-his-back and immediately dropped his French accent as he tried to explain away the situation. There was also an episode that ended with Pepe and the female non-skunk together, her smiling as he says how happy they are, then ending with her trying to saw through her chain. ---
**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/162 "2006-04-01T03:22:58Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > C’mon…they kidnap six girls to serve as brides for the six remaining brothers, who are a pretty brutish lot. > > Kidnap. By force. Can you say “Stockholm Syndrome”? Can you say, “brainwash”? Can you say “human slavery”? The whole thing is creepier than the Patty Hearst abduction. > > Stranger But… but a man can’t sleep/ when he sleeps with sheep! Bless your beautiful hide! ---
**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/163 "2006-04-01T03:54:24Z")
Also, another movie that I really wanted to be grossed out by was [Holy Smoke](http://imdb.com/title/tt0144715/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9aG9seSBzbW9rZXxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=21;fm=1) with cultite Kate Winslet and her deprogrammer Harvey Keitel. Seriously, any movie where the heroine feels the need to wet herself to get her man should be icky, right? But it quickly becomes clear that she is holding all the cards, and their strange f\*d up relationship ends up doing them both a lot of good in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/164 "2006-04-01T04:17:58Z")
> [@SusanStoHelit](#): > > Also, another movie that I really wanted to be grossed out by was [Holy Smoke](http://imdb.com/title/tt0144715/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9aG9seSBzbW9rZXxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=21;fm=1) with cultite Kate Winslet and her deprogrammer Harvey Keitel. > > Seriously, any movie where the heroine feels the need to > > wet herself > > to get her man should be icky, right? > > But it quickly becomes clear that she is holding all the cards, and their strange f\*d up relationship ends up doing them both a lot of good in the end. Are you sure you’re not talking about _Secretary_ with Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader? Because the exact same thing happens in that movie! I don’t think _Secretary_ counts because their relationship is _supposed_ to be a bit creepy, though you root for them as a couple anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/165 "2006-04-02T02:47:23Z")
> [@delphica](#): > > In **Big** , Tom Hanks hooks up with Elizabeth Perkins, and ha ha, he’s really 12 years old. Ewww. I don’t blame Perkins’s character, because I don’t think it’s normally the sort of thing once asks a prospective boyfriend (hey, are you really 12 years old?) so she doesn’t know … but I know. And it’s creepy. One minute he’s dancing on a big piano, and the next thing you know, he’s getting his freak on. According to the IMDB trivia page, there was a cut ending that had Perkins’ character becoming a 12-year old girl at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/166 "2006-04-02T03:30:52Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > According to the IMDB trivia page, there was a cut ending that had Perkins’ character becoming a 12-year old girl at the end. Has anyone actually seen this scene? There was some debate about this here, a few years back—supposedly a lesser known but similar-premised movie [14 Going on 30](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094592/) (from 1988) has a similar ending, and the two may have been confused. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/167 "2006-04-02T18:37:54Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I know in at least one cartoon Pepe never realized he was pursuing a \*non-female \* non-skunk. I believe he was also caught by his wife just before he was about to kiss the black-and-white-tomcat-with-a-white-stripe-painted-on-his-back and immediately dropped his French accent as he tried to explain away the situation. I wonder if the makers of Warner Brothers cartoons were aware that a French skunk is preposterous. Skunks are not native to Europe. However, there is the European polecat ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European\_polecat](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_polecat)), which is actually more closely related to stoats and weasels. And which, curiously, is a remarkably horny beast, walks on two legs, and speaks English with a French accent. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/168 "2006-04-02T20:26:56Z")
**Brain Glutton** , I hate to rain on your parade, but we all know that the cartoonists behind the various classic WB cartoons would **never** ignore reality for the purpose of thier stories. Pepe does not speak with a French accent, you see. He speaks with a Quebecois accent. See - no warping reality involved. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/169 "2006-04-03T00:11:22Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > **Brain Glutton** , I hate to rain on your parade, but we all know that the cartoonists behind the various classic WB cartoons would **never** ignore reality for the purpose of thier stories. > > Pepe does not speak with a French accent, you see. He speaks with a Quebecois accent. See - no warping reality involved. 😛 But both of you are forgetting what I mentioned in my post: Pepe’s Charles Boyer-influenced French accent seems to be an affectation used to attract females. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/170 "2006-04-03T20:46:25Z")
> [@moonstarssun](#): > > There were many, many things wrong with _The Phantom Menace,_ of course, but I was extremely squicked out by teenage Padme meeting Anakin as a little kid. I know there wasn’t any sign of their alleged romance there, but the whole thing was just too icky. I thought the actual romance in **Attack of the Clones** was more disturbing. Anakin came across as an obsessed stalker. You’ve been pining away for someone you met when you were wearing Yoda Underoos for 10 years?!?! **Notting Hill** was another one that bothered me. Let’s see, nebbish bookstore owner meets movie star, she invites him to her hotel room, treats him like crap when her real boyfriend shows up unexpectedly, comes back to him, dumps crap on his head when she mistakenly believes he tipped off the paparazzi, comes back again, then slags him off to a costar. Finally he grows a pair and ends it, and his friends all tell him, “No way dude, she’s freaking Julia Roberts, you gotta go after her” and he puts his spine and testes back into storage and begs her to forgive him (for what??) and get hitched. That’s romantic? This one was TV, not a movie, but it was quite the pop culture phenomenon in the early 1980s. I didn’t see any of it, but the whole Luke and Laura wedding from the soap opera General Hospital seemed very distasteful. Rape victim falls in love with her attacker and they wed?? Eeewww! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/171 "2006-04-03T22:24:00Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > I thought the actual romance in **Attack of the Clones** was more disturbing. Anakin came across as an obsessed stalker. You’ve been pining away for someone you met when you were wearing Yoda Underoos for 10 years?!?! 😕 Doesn’t everybody? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/172 "2006-04-03T22:42:36Z")
I always defend Attack of the Clones as being a love story between two REAAAAAALLLLYYYYY… f-ed up kids. Anakin was a slave and then joined a religious sect that denies emotions. And she’s been a politician since she was what? 10? 12? She didn’t start out as a Queen. These two kids are seriously socially messed up. They have more in common with Punch Drunk Love than with any other love story. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/173 "2006-04-03T22:54:57Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > (sex for Visas are) Yet another thing people gag at now, but winked at back in the day. /hijack I’ve been out of Spain since September; went home for Christmas, going again next week (tick tock tick tock…). When I was home I saw several mentions in the news and talk shows about how “the women who cross the Straits of Gibraltar pregnant or with infants have often gotten that way as part of the payment (for tickets and border passes at different points).” I figured someone must have made a ruckus about them getting medical treatment, which in Spain is universal (one of our problems with immigration is legal immigrants bringing over every badly-sick relative so said relative can have open-heart surgery or whatever). /end hijack ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/174 "2006-07-06T10:46:44Z")
I always found High Noon quite strange in the romance/ marriage between the aged Gary Cooper and the young Grace Kelly. I did like Katy Jurado. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/175 "2006-07-06T11:15:08Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] OPEN SPOILERS 2- Gaston has been a friend of this girl since she was a precocious little girl, bouncing her on his knee and bringing her candy and toys and the like, and now he’s going to sex her up… ewwwww. “Thank heaven for little girls” indeed, you Frenchy perv! That’d be like Alice suddenly getting fresh with Peter Brady after his voice changes, or Daddy Warbucks trying to cop a feel on Annie at her Coming Out Party. Sicko sicko. [/QUOTE] Reminds me of my husband’s Uncle Creepy who shacked up with my SIL (his sister’s daughter), and told her _he’s been in love with her since she was two years old_. Eeeeeeww… I was a bit bothered at first by the relationship between Marlon Brando and the French girl in _Last Tango in Paris_. But it eventually grew on me. Even though she was an experienced adult, he was obviously the dominant one in the relationship, and there was an innocence about her that just didn’t fit in the nameless-get-your-rocks-off-sex-every-day scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/176 "2006-07-06T11:49:01Z")
**Blade Runner** is one of my favorite scifi movies of all time, but that “love” scene between Deckard and Rachael was rape. No two ways about it. I see it after all these years, and I still wonder what Ridley Scott was thinking when he left that scene in. It did nothing to further the movie, and it looked so badly out of place. ---
**Author:** ![rhiannon777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@rhiannon777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhiannon777)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/177 "2006-07-06T14:35:56Z")
[QUOTE=Love Rhombus] Would **Birth** count? The romance never happened, but it was an icky idea, I thought. [/QUOTE] I think it counts, because it’s way creepier than it was meant to be. The whole bathtime scene…yuck! ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/178 "2006-07-06T15:00:31Z")
[QUOTE=Silentgoldfish] In **Clueless** Cher is meant to be a mid-highschool aged girl which I took for 15-16, who hooks up with a guy who’se either halfway through college or finished (I can’t remember), which would make him early-mid twenties. I thought that was a bit odd. [/QUOTE] Not only that, but he was her stepbrother too. Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053/179 "2006-07-06T16:40:56Z")
[QUOTE=Linty Fresh] **Blade Runner** is one of my favorite scifi movies of all time, but that “love” scene between Deckard and Rachael was rape. No two ways about it. I see it after all these years, and I still wonder what Ridley Scott was thinking when he left that scene in. It did nothing to further the movie, and it looked so badly out of place. [/QUOTE] I had a different take when I saw Blade Runner. When Deckard “rapes” Rachel, she was no more than a sophisticated sex doll to him since she was a robot, and the scene showed that. Later, however, he comes to realize that the replicants may be more than that, and his feelings toward Rachel change. In this light, the scene is important in showing Deckard’s emotional evolution. ---
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[QUOTE=bluethree] OMG, Bus Stop! What a horrible, horrible situation, and everyone around poor Marilyn Monroe smiles and winks as this bumpkin takes over her life. Yikes! [/QUOTE] For a laugh, check out this [Greyhound promotional film](http://www.archive.org/details/america_for_me_1) in which two young women are traveling across the country by bus. One of them is a stilted schoolteacher who ends up being successfully wooed by–yes you guessed it–a Texas rancher. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-romances-you-found-extremely-disturbing-though-they-werent-supposed-to-be/350053.md?page=10)