# Movie scenes that would never happen in a post-9/11 world

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**Created:** [March 14, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835 "2007-03-14T01:56:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/21 "2007-03-14T17:34:52Z")

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[QUOTE=nivlac]  
\*\*Movie scenes that would never happen in a post-9/11 world \*\*  
You won’t see King Kong scampering up the WTC tower with Jessica Lange!  
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they needed to move back to the Empire State Building anyway

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/22 "2007-03-14T20:42:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Spoons]  
…Of course, when that film was made, there was no airport security whatsoever, so it was entirely possible. But there are other things in there you just don’t see anymore: the pilot strolling through the cabin to say hello to people, for example.  
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There must have been some form of airport security then. Otherwise that scene with the women going through the security scanner and guards being able to see them naked wouldn’t have made any sense. Of course that actually is happening in our post-911 world 😉 .

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/23 "2007-03-14T20:50:38Z")

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The plot of _Escape from New York_ has bizarre overtones now. Terrorists deliberately crash a hijacked plane into Manhattan, after which a glider lands on the top of the World Trade Centre?!

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/24 "2007-03-14T21:23:33Z")

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[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
The plot of _Escape from New York_ has bizarre overtones now. Terrorists deliberately crash a hijacked plane into Manhattan, after which a glider lands on the top of the World Trade Centre?!  
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And I realize it wasn’t a big budget masterpiece, but I always thought that the shot of the glider falling off the WTC was about as shitty a special effect as I’d seen.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/25 "2007-03-14T21:49:28Z")

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[QUOTE=DellieM]  
I know it was done in the spirit of Tarantino, Samuri Sword HOLDERS on planes??? Kill Bill II really stretched the limits of his expressionism through film to show Uma sitting with her sword by her side. Much less, Sword holders in planes means that everyone is expected to have one? Today, Qantas would have even taken her whiteboard marker from her.  
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The joke is that she’s on a Japanese airline, the implication being that enough Japanese people wander around carrying katanas that the airlines needed to adress katana-storage.

Also, expressionism? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/26 "2007-03-14T22:30:32Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
There must have been some form of airport security then. Otherwise that scene with the women going through the security scanner and guards being able to see them naked wouldn’t have made any sense. Of course that actually is happening in our post-911 world 😉 .  
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**Spoons** was referring to **AirPORT** , from 1970. The scene you’re referring to was in **AirPLANE 2** , from 1982.

As far as **Airport** , though, was that not the one with the stowaway? One of the **Airport** s had a stowaway. Not happening today, all right.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/27 "2007-03-15T05:02:23Z")

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Wasn’t airport security originally implemented after D.B. Cooper?

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/28 "2007-03-15T08:38:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Phase42]  
Wasn’t airport security originally implemented after D.B. Cooper?  
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Dunno about that, but after him they redesigned the aircraft doors so you couldn’t open them while the plane was in flight.

Frankly, _any_ film with a madman bent on global domination that I’ve seen post 9/11 falls flat, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/29 "2007-03-15T08:49:09Z")

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[grizzled drill sergeant] “Boys, we didn’t start this war, but by God we’re going to end it.”

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/30 "2007-03-15T16:43:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]  
As far as **Airport** , though, was that not the one with the stowaway? One of the **Airport** s had a stowaway. Not happening today, all right.  
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Yep, the first one was the one with the stowaway, played by Helen Hayes, IIRC. Her act was choose a confusing and busy time at the gate, then claiming to the gate agent that her son or daughter was on the plane and forgotten something (a wallet, for example), and could she just run down to the plane and give it to him or her? Mostly, they’d say “OK,” without looking up from whatever was keeping them busy. She’d get on the plane and find an empty seat.

Definitely no way she could do that today. Between check-ins requiring ID, security checkpoints that only ticketed passengers can pass, and showing ID before getting on the plane, she’s never make it that way any more.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/31 "2007-03-15T17:43:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Spoons]  
Yep, the first one was the one with the stowaway, played by Helen Hayes, IIRC. Her act was choose a confusing and busy time at the gate, then claiming to the gate agent that her son or daughter was on the plane and forgotten something (a wallet, for example), and could she just run down to the plane and give it to him or her? Mostly, they’d say “OK,” without looking up from whatever was keeping them busy. She’d get on the plane and find an empty seat.

Definitely no way she could do that today. Between check-ins requiring ID, security checkpoints that only ticketed passengers can pass, and showing ID before getting on the plane, she’s never make it that way any more.  
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[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011801681.html?nav=rss\_nation/nationalsecurity](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011801681.html?nav=rss_nation/nationalsecurity)  
don’t be to sure about that

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/32 "2007-03-15T17:59:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Ranchoth]  
Hell—wasn’t there a thread awhile back that noted a movie where a character boarded a plane on the runway, and only _bought his ticket after getting airborne?_ :eek:  
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[The Parrallax View](http://imdb.com/title/tt0071970/). I came in here to mention that myself.  
Another one though is [House of Games](http://imdb.com/title/tt0093223/), an otherwise excellent movie but for a finale in (minor spoilers) two characters stroll into an airports’ luggage handling center (where checked luggage is brought to be loaded onto planes). One character even whips out a gun & kills the other one, then casually saunters away.

Even for the year it was released, 1987, that was a highly improbable occurance though. Unchaperoned civilians simply strolling into a room where they have access to the belongings of every passenger on every flight in that airport? Even if they could simply walk into a high security area, there would at least have been a security camera taking pictures of the murderer getting away.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/33 "2007-03-15T21:03:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]  
The surprisingly good movie _Big Trouble_ was slated to come out right around 9/11, but since it revolved around a plot to get a bomb aboard a plane, it was delayed and quietly released some time later.

(Seriously, Netflix it. Don’t let Tim Allen scare you away!)  
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Not surprising to anyone who’s a Dave Barry fan.

I was really disapointed by that, since there was a huge marketing blitz that ended up completely wasted, and I think it may have ruined Barry’s chances to do more screenwriting.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/34 "2007-03-15T21:12:51Z")

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[QUOTE=iamthewalrus(:3=]  
Not surprising to anyone who’s a Dave Barry fan.

I was really disapointed by that, since there was a huge marketing blitz that ended up completely wasted, and I think it may have ruined Barry’s chances to do more screenwriting.  
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Barry didn’t write the screenplay for the movie.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-scenes-that-would-never-happen-in-a-post-9-11-world/395835/35 "2007-03-15T21:53:37Z")

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Any sort of movie like _Executive Decision_ or _The Rock_ where it is so hard to decide whether to sacrifice the lives of a handful of innocent hostages or suffer the consequences of a generalized terroristic threat.

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