# Movie sequels people wanted, but took too long to come out.

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**Created:** [March 22, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900 "2016-03-22T23:16:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
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Don’t know how many people were clamoring for a sequel to _Terms of Endearment_ (1983) but certainly, nobody cared when _The Evening Star_ was released 13 years later. It was a commercial and critical disaster.

Sort of an inversion: With the 2008 economic meltdown and schenanigans of bankers worldwide, _Wall Street 2_ seemed like a perfectly-timed sequel, despite the original being 23 years old. Unfortunately, that movie also completely sucked (and hardly referenced the Great Recession at all!)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/42 "2016-03-23T20:40:29Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I LOVED that movie!
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> But here’s a note to any Hollywood types who are clearly not bright enough to listen. If you cannot get the original core group of actors…DO NOT MAKE THE SEQUEL.
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> Already mentioned was The Sting 2, with Jackie Gleason and Mac Davis\*. Mac Davis, fer crissakes! Even if was a year after the first, that turd was gonna bomb.

…not to mention a HORRIBLY miscast Terri Garr. And Oliver Reed in place of Robert Shaw, fer cryin’ out loud.  
Even though David S. Ward, who wrote the original **Sting**. co-wrote the screenplay, this one still stinks. He changed the back stories and the characters of the main players, as was, I supposed, evidenced by his also changing their first names. It doesn’t really feel like a sequel. Worst of all, it doesn’t have the “period” feel that the first film did.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/43 "2016-03-23T20:47:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I spent about a decade thinking everyone considered Zoolander a huge critical failure. A movie that made money, but was massively hated. Like Transformers 2.
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> I was shocked to learn that there are people who liked it. To be fair, I have never seen it.

Count me among its fans. Although I can see how it might not be for everyone, I loved the original _Zoolander_ and have watched it several times.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/44 "2016-03-23T20:50:55Z")

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> Wow, I’m pretty surprised to see that I’m the first to mention this one (thought it would have been said right after the OP) _ **“Godfather 3”** _

The problem with _The Godfather III_ wasn’t its timing. It was that the movie had nothing to say that hadn’t already been said in the first two movies. It would have been a bad movie even if it had been made in 1976.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/45 "2016-03-23T20:53:16Z")

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The Avatar sequels are going to be tricky. The first one was such a big success because the effects really were phenomenal, and far beyond anything anyone had ever seen at the time. By now, though, they’re not nearly so revolutionary, so the sequels will either have to come up with yet another special-effects revolution, which is unlikely, or just retread the same effects as the first one. If the sequel had come out a year or two after the first, the effects would no longer be revolutionary, but would still at least be new. Now, though…

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/46 "2016-03-23T20:56:15Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I hope they make movies of all of the Chronicles of Narnia books, it doesn’t seem right to just make some, and then , ‘ah, the hell with it’, leave the series incomplete. Like The Golden Compass movie with Nicole Kidman, those are very popular books, there should be movies to go with them.

Sometimes the box office returns don’t justify making the sequels. I would love if they continued making the entire Hitchhikers Guide books into films with the same cast, but it just didn’t do that well in theaters.  
I read somewhere that they are already cutting budget for the 4th and final Divergant film. Mostly because no one gives a crap about “Hunger Games Lite”.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/47 "2016-03-23T21:00:25Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> It’s the highest grossing, not second highest. Yeah, I mean it obviously made money, but it has not faired as well over time. A long wait has made it non-existant.

I read Gone With the Wind was highest when adjusted for inflation, but no matter.

I’m not sure what “has no faired well” means. That it doesn’t stand up to repeated viewings years later? Perhaps.

I’m going to through in the upcoming Independence Day sequel into the mix as well. Much like Avatar, I feel ID4 was a movie that blew people away the first time they saw it in theaters and then subsequently felt like a made-for-TV movie on later rewatching.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/48 "2016-03-23T21:34:19Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> I’m still waiting for a sequel to _The Last Starfighter,_ personally.

I am SO waiting for this, or a remake. Why do they insist on remaking crap when this is a great story and would be amazing now?

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/49 "2016-03-23T22:02:55Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The Avatar sequels are going to be tricky. The first one was such a big success because the effects really were phenomenal, and far beyond anything anyone had ever seen at the time. By now, though, they’re not nearly so revolutionary, so the sequels will either have to come up with yet another special-effects revolution, which is unlikely, or just retread the same effects as the first one. If the sequel had come out a year or two after the first, the effects would no longer be revolutionary, but would still at least be new. Now, though…

That problem might not be so bad if they come up with a story that’s interesting and original but that might be asking for too much.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/50 "2016-03-23T22:41:39Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Speaking of sequels that took too long … Independence Day 2 is coming soon. I suspect it will be going away rather quickly.

Say that to Jurassic World.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/51 "2016-03-23T23:22:18Z")

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> Originally posted by **Gyrate**  
> There was a prequel in 2003 - Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd

I’m going to pretend I never read that.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/52 "2016-03-23T23:23:56Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> That problem might not be so bad if they come up with a story that’s interesting and original but that might be asking for too much.

If they had a story that was interesting and original they should have used it in the first one.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/53 "2016-03-23T23:46:17Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> (So many of our fine thespians make a hit movie when young, don’t want to be typecast, ferchrissake, they have SO much more talent than that!..and then years go by and they want to hopefully squeeze out one more big paycheck. Crawling back to the original movie…)

There’s long been talk of a new _Bill and Ted_ movie. Both Alex Winter, who is doing most of the donkey work, and Keanu Reeves keep talking about it.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/54 "2016-03-23T23:56:54Z")

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They’re pretty much going to have to just reboot Buckaroo Banzai before they can hope to do The World Crime League.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/55 "2016-03-24T01:24:59Z")

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I would have really enjoyed a Weekend at Bernie’s 3 if they had made it one or two years after they made part 2.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/56 "2016-03-24T15:22:50Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Say that to Jurassic World.

Well, when your whole plot is “dinosaurs get loose and kill everyone”, you have to leave some time between sequels just so people will forget what happened in the last one.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-sequels-people-wanted-but-took-too-long-to-come-out/749900/57 "2016-03-24T15:30:22Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The Avatar sequels are going to be tricky. The first one was such a big success because the effects really were phenomenal, and far beyond anything anyone had ever seen at the time. By now, though, they’re not nearly so revolutionary, so the sequels will either have to come up with yet another special-effects revolution, which is unlikely, or just retread the same effects as the first one. If the sequel had come out a year or two after the first, the effects would no longer be revolutionary, but would still at least be new. Now, though…

The marine robots will have even bigger knives and explodier bullets.

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