# Movie Series with One or Two Titles Different from the Others **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 5, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138 "2024-02-05T13:45:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/21 "2024-02-05T15:47:48Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > The sequels to **Beethoven** used the format **Beethoven’s 2nd** , **Beethoven’s 3rd** , etc. - until they got to the sixth movie, which was titled **Beethoven’s Big Break**. Surely the _ **Sixth** _ should have been titled _Beethoven - Out to Pasture_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/22 "2024-02-05T15:52:29Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ is the first that comes to mind. All the others are “Indiana Jones and…” well… Lucas loves to retroactivate his movies. So now the movie we loved as an original breath of fresh air is officially known as “Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark”. Just like the one, true STAR WARS is now Star Wars Ep IV A New Hope. Are y’all sure Mad max didn’t make a “splash” in the US market? I saw it in the theaters and it made an impression, and we all lived in bumfuk Wisconsin. When The Road Worrier came out, everyone i knew recognized it as a sequel. Maybe we were in a good market? ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/23 "2024-02-05T15:57:22Z")
> [@Bayaker](#): > > Surely the _ **Sixth** _ should have been titled _Beethoven - Out to Pasture_ 😆 Just thought of another one: the **Ernest** movies all had Ernest’s name in the title, except for the first one, titled **Dr. Otto and the Riddle of the Gloom Beam**. ( **Slam Dunk Ernest** was the only film where Ernest’s name appeared at the _end_ of the title.) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/24 "2024-02-05T16:05:24Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > It makes perfect sense. The plot revolves around the remains of an alien spaceship that crashed five million years ago. Not to someone who hadn’t seen the film – it’s a very weird way of conveying the notion. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/25 "2024-02-05T16:07:42Z")
Of the Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes films, Five have “Sherlock Holmes” in the title. (the first “Hound of the Baskervilles”, is arguably the most famous Holmes story, and didn’t nee his name). The last eight did not, and aren’t named after any Sherlock Holmes stories (although they incorporated elements of them). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/26 "2024-02-05T16:17:10Z")
Only about thirteen of Abbott and Costello’s films have their names in the title (or would, if read as they appear on the marquee). Not all the others should be included in a survey of their films, but the Universal ones should. That’s about half with and half without, depending upon how generous you are. It’s only the later movies that feature their names explicitly in the title. In the earlier ones (For example, “In the Navy”, which, with their names at the top above the title, it would be read as “Abbot and Costello In the Navy”) , it’s implied. ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/27 "2024-02-05T16:28:35Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > The sequels to **Beethoven** used the format **Beethoven’s 2nd** , **Beethoven’s 3rd** , etc. - until they got to the sixth movie, which was titled **Beethoven’s Big Break**. The **Rocky** sequels also made it through **Rocky V** before going to **Rocky Balboa** for the sixth movie, then started over again with **Creed I-III** ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/28 "2024-02-05T16:29:27Z")
Michael Caine made five movies based on Len Deighton’s Harry Palmer character: The Ipcress File, Funeral in Berlin, Billion Dollar Brain, Bullet to Beijing, and Midnight in St. Petersburg, none of which had Palmer’s name in evidence. It may explain why most of them after Ipcress didn’t do so well. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/29 "2024-02-05T16:39:11Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Not to someone who hadn’t seen the film That’s true of a large percentage of titles. I mean, would you know what _Raiders Of The Lost Ark_ was about from title alone? Doctor No? A new Hope? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/30 "2024-02-05T16:49:41Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > > [@Munch](#): > > > > The first Rambo movie was just “First Blood”, followed by “Rambo: First Blood Part II” (a truly terrible sequel name). > > Then they continued it with simply _Rambo III_. I was so disappointed that it wasn’t First Blood part III or maybe Second Blood Part I. I always thought it should have been “Rambo II: First Blood Part III” ---
**Author:** ![ZamboniAce1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@ZamboniAce1000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZamboniAce1000)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/31 "2024-02-05T16:55:48Z")
The original Planet of the Apes movies had some interesting titles: Planet of the Apes, Return to the Planet of the Apes, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Behind and to the Left of the Planet of the Apes, etc etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/32 "2024-02-05T17:41:26Z")
I immediately thought of these… The Fast and the Furious 2 Fast 2 Furious The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift Fast & Furious Fast Five Fast & Furious 6 Furious 7 The Fate of the Furious Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw F9 Fast and Furious 10 ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/33 "2024-02-05T17:53:01Z")
There was a series of 6 movies in the 30s featuring amateur sleuth Hildegard Withers. _The Penguin Pool Murder Murder on the Blackboard Murder on a Honeymoon Murder on the Bridal Path The Plot Thickens Forty Naughty Girls_ The lead actor in the first three was Edna May Oliver. Helen Broderick took over for one film and Zasu Pitts did the last two. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/34 "2024-02-05T17:56:45Z")
Well, there’s _Batman Begins, The Dark Knight_ and _The Dark Knight Rises_. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/35 "2024-02-05T17:58:38Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Romancing the Stone and Jewel of the Nile. > > It does seem an odd decision from a marketing standpoint. How would someone even know those two files are related? I was around when those movies were released and I think we all knew that Jewel of the Nile was a sequel to Romancing the Stone. The commercials and the presence of Danny Devito, Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner made it clear. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/36 "2024-02-05T18:10:44Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > That’s true of a large percentage of titles. I mean, would you know what _Raiders Of The Lost Ark_ was about from title alone? Doctor No? A new Hope? Those make sense. There was plenty of speculation about what “Raidrrs of the Lost Ark” might mean (Noah’s Ark?) Five Million Years to Earth, though? Five Million Years Ago, maybe. Or The Prehistoric Enigma, or something like that. Five Million Years to Earth suggests a journay to Earth that requires Five Million Years, not a reference to siomething that happened five million years ago ON Earth. ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/37 "2024-02-05T20:35:12Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Lucas loves to retroactivate his movies. So now the movie we loved as an original breath of fresh air is officially known as “Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark”. Just like the one, true STAR WARS is now Star Wars Ep IV A New Hope. Were the credits on the actual film of _Raiders_ changed? I thought they just updated the DVD sleeves with the revamped titles. I haven’t seen the movie in a while, I should throw the BluRay in and check… ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/38 "2024-02-05T20:43:33Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > Were the credits on the actual film of _Raiders_ changed? I thought they just updated the DVD sleeves with the revamped titles. I haven’t seen the movie in a while, I should throw the BluRay in and check… Not on the copy I’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/39 "2024-02-05T20:49:40Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@CalMeacham](#): > > > > _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ is the first that comes to mind. All the others are “Indiana Jones and…” > > well… > > Lucas loves to retroactivate his movies. So now the movie we loved as an original breath of fresh air is officially known as “Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark”. Came here to point this out. I picked up _Raiders_ on DVD about a decade ago and, sure enough, it was retitled “Indiana Jones and the…” > [@CalMeacham](#): > > But it’s hard to believe Lucas and Spielberg hadn’t considered that Indiana Jones would be similarly popular… Perhaps they figured that “Raiders of the…” would be the series’ hook? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138/40 "2024-02-05T21:59:21Z")
Of the 33 Toho films, the word Godzilla appears in the title of all but the 5th, 6th, 7th\*, 9th, and 10th\*\* films in the series. By the end of the 1960s Godzilla has had his name in the title of every film he has appeared in. \*Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster in the US \*\* Godzilla’s Revenge in the US [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-series-with-one-or-two-titles-different-from-the-others/997138.md?page=3)