# Movie "Setup" Explain why you would pour antifreeze on someone before you off them?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 7, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117 "2011-11-07T00:12:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![lurkedtolong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@lurkedtolong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkedtolong)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/21 "2011-11-07T19:05:43Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> I’m baffled as well. Dumping antifreeze over someone will do nothing to keep them from freezing. Maybe if they could have pumped it through his veins, his body wouldn’t freeze - but he would be in no shape to dig a hole either.
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> No idea. I hope someone comes in here with something, cause this is going to bug me. I haven’t even seen the movie.
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> A search on IMDB doesn’t help - but I think this is a pic of [the scene in question](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3474636032/tt1748197)

Yes, that is a picture of the scene, to bad the bottle isn’t laying on the ground in the photo though. Ditto to thinking the stuff would do the same job before or after he was killed.  
As for previous post about throwing off the store clerk that could of been it, but why after throwing that clerk off would he still use it? Also i forgot to mention he drives a older car maybe a gto or 2+2, maybe he just needed it for his car but it didn’t last that long.

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**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/22 "2011-11-07T21:10:59Z")

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I’ve never seen it but **Isamu** ’s theory is exactly what I was thinking.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/23 "2011-11-07T23:35:03Z")

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According to post on imdb asking the same question, the bottle is orange and labeled “IceEngine.” Obviously a fake prop coolant / antifreeze, then.

This really is pretty baffling.

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**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/24 "2011-11-08T00:03:56Z")

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I would imagine that the antifreeze would be used to remove fingerprints, DNA, any other biological and possibly chemical sample associated with clothing, the victim, etc. There would be some sterilization aspect to it as well- but it would certainly disrupt many potential clues if nothing else. Perhaps misinformed in fact, but I can imagine someone equating ethylene glycol with super strong alcohol in the criminals’ minds.

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/25 "2011-11-08T00:37:13Z")

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What if it was meant to be like [HEET](http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/heet/default.aspx) - that is, a _fuel_ antifreeze containing highly flammable methanol or isopropanol? That would tend to support the ‘dig or I burn you alive’ view.

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/26 "2011-11-08T00:53:56Z")

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I considered that it might be a bit of misdirection on the part of the filmmakers, as a ass-covering move in the event of ‘copycat’ activity by viewers. Like giving a fake in-movie formula for drug or explosive synthesis, they show something that seems like it might be dangerous but is actually innocuous. But then again, antifreeze is potentially lethal if ingested in relatively small amounts, which would defeat the purpose of picking a harmless, if threatening, gesture.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/27 "2011-11-08T01:03:26Z")

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Not seen the movie, but could it be symbolism of the victim going to hell?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/28 "2011-11-08T01:22:30Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If it were for forensic purposes, surely it would be easier to apply it after the guy’s dead?

And touch a dead guy? Ewww.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/29 "2011-11-08T15:38:19Z")

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Quick question, **lurkedtolong** : Was the dousee indeed killed, and if so, how? Might help provide a clue.

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**Author:** ![lurkedtolong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@lurkedtolong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkedtolong)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/30 "2011-11-08T15:48:50Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Quick question, **lurkedtolong** : Was the dousee indeed killed, and if so, how? Might help provide a clue.

After all of this took place, a final revelations shows that the victim would suffer more horribly if left alive. To make a long story short, only a leg gunshot was given before driving away. This movie was based on doing a robbery to fund protection for his father in prison. Once the payment was not made, his father was put in general population where he was instantly killed.Living knowing this would have been a much greater punishment. Curtis feels that he is better than his friend when he leaves his friend alive which is more than we can say for his friend who shot him and left him for dead in the movie opening.

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**Author:** ![Preddoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc79bd/32.png) [@Preddoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Preddoc)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/31 "2012-01-28T01:21:06Z")

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I think it would possibly confuse cadaver dogs I watched the other night couldn’t figure this out as well this how I found post

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**Author:** ![Preddoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc79bd/32.png) [@Preddoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Preddoc)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-setup-explain-why-you-would-pour-antifreeze-on-someone-before-you-off-them/602117/32 "2012-01-28T01:42:46Z")

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> [@Preddoc](#):
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> I think it would possibly confuse cadaver dogs I watched the other night couldn’t figure this out as well this how I found post

I asked 50 on twitter, I’ll let you know if he replies, I doubt it

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