# Movie Snobs: What Popular Movies Are Fashionable to Dislike But You Still Do? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 23, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610 "2009-11-23T06:03:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/21 "2009-11-23T23:06:46Z")
Crash Titanic The English Patient Looks like I hit the trifecta! ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/22 "2009-11-23T23:13:19Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I think most people who have actually seen _The Postman_ like it. > I think it gets a bad rap since it came out a mere two years after the failed _Waterworld_. I don’t think many people gave it a chance and thought “Oh no, Costner is doing another post-apocalyptic film? Didn’t he learn from Waterworld?” > and they never even bothered watching it dismissing it on it’s premise alone. Neither was an especially bad film on their own, they just were not as great as Costner thought and were massive financial failures. I liked to Postman okay, it was just way longer than it needed to be. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/23 "2009-11-23T23:22:03Z")
The Matrix. I’m with everyone else on _Reloaded_ and _Revolutions_, but the first movie ticks a lot of boxes for me. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/24 "2009-11-23T23:23:00Z")
Walt Disney’s _Alice In Wonderland_ ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/25 "2009-11-23T23:35:45Z")
**Blair Witch Project** seems to get dumped on for being popular. Ditto **Crash** which I thought was really good. I still don’t understand the hate for **Dances with Wolves**. > [@Mangetout](#): > > The Matrix. People hate on The Matrix? It was doing pretty well on the “best film of the 90’s thread”. And on the opposite side, why are we talking about **The Postman**? I liked it too, but I can hardly see how it can be called a popular movie. > [@Mahna](#): > > Thin Red Line, really? The Thin Red Line seems to suffer from some type of meta-meta snobbery. It wasn’t a commercial success, but was well reviewed and seems to be made to appeal to snobs. But if your a snob, you don’t want to like what’s predictable or popular, even amongst snobs, so it gets dumped on, around here anyways. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/26 "2009-11-23T23:45:42Z")
People generally dislike Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, don’t they (Burton version)? I actually enjoy it much more than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I REALLY dislike Charlie in the first movie and I’m not clear on why he’s more worthy than the other kids - but that’s another rant. In the Burton version, perhaps the Willy and his dad aspect was a bit unnecessary - although I don’t really mind it, overall I much prefer it. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/27 "2009-11-23T23:50:11Z")
> [@drm](#): > > People generally dislike Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, don’t they (Burton version)? I actually enjoy it much more than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I REALLY dislike Charlie in the first movie and I’m not clear on why he’s more worthy than the other kids - but that’s another rant. If you want to go on a tangent, I can help you with that last point. I started a thread about it once. Charlie is basically white trash. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364853&highlight=charlie+chocolate+factory](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364853&highlight=charlie+chocolate+factory) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/28 "2009-11-23T23:50:41Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > People hate on The Matrix? It was doing pretty well on the “best film of the 90’s thread”. I’ve certainly seen quite a lot of snobby disapproval of it (often coupled with anime-elitism - i.e. “It’s just a poor take-off of _Ghost in the shell_”) ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/29 "2009-11-23T23:52:07Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I think most people who have actually seen _The Postman_ like it. [Oh really?](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119925/) :dubious: > [@](#): > > I think it gets a bad rap since it came out a mere two years after the failed _Waterworld_. I don’t think many people gave it a chance and thought “Oh no, Costner is doing another post-apocalyptic film? Didn’t he learn from Waterworld?” > and they never even bothered watching it dismissing it on it’s premise alone. Of course, there is [the other possibility](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor): that it really does suck (said by someone who saw it before it was released so had no word-of-mouth or critics’ opinions to influence him beforehand) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/30 "2009-11-23T23:52:39Z")
> [@drm](#): > > People generally dislike Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, don’t they (Burton version)? Yes, mostly for Tim Burton’s decision to characterise Willy Wonka as Michael Jackson-esque, I think. BTW, you transposed the titles. The musical version with Gene Wilder was _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_. Tim Burton’s version was _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/31 "2009-11-23T23:52:48Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > If you want to go on a tangent, I can help you with that last point. I started a thread about it once. Charlie is basically white trash. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364853&highlight=charlie+chocolate+factory](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364853&highlight=charlie+chocolate+factory) lol, very nice. I completely agree. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/32 "2009-11-24T00:21:14Z")
> [@drm](#): > > People generally dislike Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, don’t they (Burton version)? I actually enjoy it much more than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I REALLY dislike Charlie in the first movie and I’m not clear on why he’s more worthy than the other kids - but that’s another rant. > > In the Burton version, perhaps the Willy and his dad aspect was a bit unnecessary - although I don’t really mind it, overall I much prefer it. The Burton version, which is not a remake of the Wilder version but an adaptation of the source material, is Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. The Wilder version is Willie Wonka & the Chocolate Factory. I too love the Burton/Depp version. I have never been able to sit through the Wilder version. Few things are more odious than that farking “Candyman” song. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/33 "2009-11-24T00:34:47Z")
Dances with Wolves is one of my favorite movies, especially the soundtrack. Like most folks here, I love the three Lord of the Rings movie, but I’m going against the grain by saying Return of the King was my favorite of the three. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/34 "2009-11-24T00:52:26Z")
Well, when anybody even mentions Adventures of Ford Fairlane, they diss it. I Love it. Not that it didn’t need some editing, bt it was pretty amusing. Forrest Gump. Armageddon. It was crap, but I liked it. All Bruce Willis movies, except for Hudson Hawk. Hmmm…that’s about it. for now. hh ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/35 "2009-11-24T01:39:01Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > The Burton version, which is not a remake of the Wilder version but an adaptation of the source material, is Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. The Wilder version is Willie Wonka & the Chocolate Factory. > > I too love the Burton/Depp version. I have never been able to sit through the Wilder version. Few things are more odious than that farking “Candyman” song. Dang, can’t believe I messed that up…ah well. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/36 "2009-11-24T02:24:47Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Well, when anybody even mentions Adventures of Ford Fairlane, they diss it. I Love it. > Not that it didn’t need some editing, bt it was pretty amusing. > Forrest Gump. > Armageddon. It was crap, but I liked it. > All Bruce Willis movies, except for Hudson Hawk. > > Hmmm…that’s about it. > > for now. > > hh I liked Adventures of Ford Fairlane, good popcorn flick. Love the car. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/37 "2009-11-24T03:42:27Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > A lot of people hate romantic comedies and have a special hate for ones containing Hugh Grant. > Actually his are the only ones I like. I’ve seen _Notting Hill, About A boy, Love Actually_ dozens of times. _Notting Hill_ and _About a Boy_ are both good movies. _Love Actually_, I’d take a railroad spike in the eye first. ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/38 "2009-11-24T04:10:56Z")
I’ll guess I’ll throw in [300](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/). Yeah, it’s over-stylized, dumb, and (under some interpretations) a bit racist. But God damn it, it’s fucking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/39 "2009-11-24T05:26:24Z")
I’m gonna say **Mars Attacks**. It cracks me up. ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/40 "2009-11-24T06:32:24Z")
I still love _Last Action Hero_ and think it’s a great solid 90s action movie with a clever premise. The movie was savaged by critics and still doesn’t seem to get any respect. C’mon, it’s got lovingly crafted shout-outs to half of Hollywood’s output from Bogart to the T-1000, the villains are so memorable (who can forget Charles Dance as Benedict with his glass eye), the kid sidekick is actually quick-witted and not annoying, and it’s classic Ah-nuld. _Long Kiss Goodnight_ bombed hard at the box office, but I put it up with LAH as one of the best full-throttle action movies of the 90s. The dialogue is snappy, Samuel L. Jackson is amazing as always, and Geena Davis is just brutal as the amnesiac assassin-turned-suburban mom. I rank it lower than LAH only because the little kid is annoying and lisps a lot. I thought _The Postman_ was shit, but I quite enjoyed _Waterworld_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610.md?page=3)