# Movie Snobs: What Popular Movies Are Fashionable to Dislike But You Still Do?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 23, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610 "2009-11-23T06:03:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/61 "2009-12-01T01:20:01Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Fifth Element  
> Beetlejuice  
> Heavens Gate  
> I like them. But Chis Christoferson is the most wooden actor of all time.

I came in to mention _Heaven’s Gate_. Everybody hates it. And everyone knows he’s supposed to hate it. But I like it. It’s based on a relatively little-known incident, I appreciate the accuracy of the costumes and the accouterments, and I like the cinematography. And Isabelle Huppert is naked in it. 😃 The graduation ball and the roller-skating sucked. Incredibly boring. But I liked the rest of it.

I guess I’m not much of a snob. I didn’t know I was supposed to dislike _Beetlejuice_. I like looking at Winona Ryder and Geena Davis. I like Tim Burton’s films in general. Danny Elfman’s soundtrack is nice, and the overall movie is a romp. I like it.

_Fifth Element_? I’ve seen it once. A friend gave me a videotape or a DVD of it years ago, and I haven’t watched it again. So I can’t say it’s bad. I do recall there were some good bits in it.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/62 "2009-12-01T02:55:23Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Your sense of movie continuity, motion from one scene to the next, and characterization in general are not as superior as you think they are.
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> Also, it is possible to see a forest, not just trees. EVERY movie has continuity flaws. No exceptions.
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> No, I’m not interested in arguing with you. It would be pointless.

Continuity flaws? You mean making no damned sense?

Does every film have multiple “continuity flaws” piling up one after another in the same scene?

You sense of “seeing the forest for the trees” is not as broad as you think it is – I’ll wager that if the name of the director were some unknown art student, you wouldn’t think the film was any good at all.

You haven’t advanced any case for _why_ the film is good. You’ve just _asserted_ that it’s good, and repeatedly implied that I am pretentious or some kind of film idiot.

I have cited specific scenes, multiple times, and explained my objections in terms of rational understanding of the way things work. The telephone wire example – do you seriously think Malick had them go in a different direction than the wire they’re supposed to be following, an obviously impossible direction, to make some kind of statement about art?  
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/63 "2009-12-01T06:19:28Z")

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This thread is supposed to be about movies one _likes_ despite how much some people still like to bash them, as **Sailboat** annoyingly and insistently demonstrates. But of course the negativity wins out, again. As it always does. It’s so very much easier to flatten something than to build it, and it’s easy to evoke the allure of superiority in doing so.

I regard arguing about why _The Thin Red Line_ is good to be utterly pointless. The poor film has been beaten to death in this place. I have no interest in revisiting this. I’m quite sure that you’re not interested at all in why I like it, either; you’re just looking for clay pigeons to try to shoot out of the sky. No, thanks.

I will say that if you cannot tolerate the few, minor continuity errors, I’m surprised you can tolerate any films at all. Check out [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) sometimes–every film has a huge list of continuity errors, with almost zero exceptions. This movie’s errors are no worse than most, in my opinion, and I for one happily overlook them in favor of the films’ other merits, as I do with virtually every movie I like.

Incidentally, when I first saw _The Thin Red Line_, I was not yet a Terrence Malick fan. I became one after liking the movie and wanting to know more about its director, whom I had never heard of at that point.

Pretense of superiority = pretentious, since apparently you still don’t get how that works. You don’t like it, fine. But don’t lord it over people who do, and shit on a thread which is supposed to be about liking movies, not hating them. Og knows there are plenty of other threads on the SDMB every day about hating movies.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/64 "2009-12-01T14:35:53Z")

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The Postman

Armageddon

Gump.  
Came out the same year as Pulp Fiction and Shawshank.All 3 worthy of best picture,while Gump is probly the least deserving of the three it is still a great movie.

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**Author:** ![trioxide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c2a13f/32.png) [@trioxide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trioxide)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/65 "2009-12-08T21:42:22Z")

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First of all, the Crank sequel is not even considered entertainment. Give me a break. If you want real quality films that are much better than half the films that you’ve mentioned, then try.

Let The Right One In- if there were really vampires today this would be more of a realistic view on it.  
Un Secret-A Secret  
The Duchess  
Atonement- I loved the scenese that were like painting in motion. Very artistic scenes.  
Australia  
Anything by Pixar- they make the best family oriented films out there.  
Movies based on Novels by Jane Austen, Steven King, J.R. Tolkien, and some others.  
Braveheart  
The Patriot  
The Sixth Sense  
Watchmen- has real excellent fighting scenes that are realistic. Bone crunching and bloody.  
The Black Dhalia  
V For Vendetta  
Les Miserables  
A League Of Their Own  
The Color Purple  
Braum Stokers Dracula  
Interview With A Vampire  
Anything by: Tim Burton( makes the best clay animated films.), Steven Spielberg, Peter Jackson, Mel Gibson, M. Night Shyamalan( The only one he made that was good was the Sixth Sense.)…ect.

You get my drift on what is considered entertainment? haha

If I had to choose a film outside the movie snob box, then it would be.

Imagine That  
The Monster Squad( For Sentimental reasons)  
17 Again  
Titanic-Maybe  
The Mummy

This is as low as I go. Will Farrel and the Waynes Brothers will not ever be on my top 10. Neither will Fast and Furious or the X-men or The Matrix.

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**Author:** ![trioxide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c2a13f/32.png) [@trioxide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trioxide)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-snobs-what-popular-movies-are-fashionable-to-dislike-but-you-still-do/518610/66 "2009-12-08T21:52:53Z")

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I don’t think I life any films that people talk negative about really. Actually, there were people who didn’t like Atonement, but I loved it! I mostly watch films based on novels/books or true stories. Those are the ones that captivate me the most. I watched so many movies. I live with a movie buff. The worst movies I watched, I don’t know if anyone in here likes, but are:

Return Of The Livingdead series  
Lobserman From Mars  
Agent Cody Banks  
Smokin’ Aces  
Liar Liar  
The 40 year Old Virgin  
The Lost World  
30 Days Of Night  
1408  
The 13th Floor  
White Noise

God, I forgot the titles, that’s how bad they are!

I’m sorry for the joy kill, but I’m vary particular when it come’s to movies. Loving films that most people hate is hard to love.

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