# Movie theme songs that are about the villain....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 28, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801 "2014-10-28T23:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/21 "2014-10-30T00:02:04Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Is that the theme song? I would have guessed the theme song would have been the “Welcome Christmas” song. (Fah who fra-ze / Dah who dra-ze /Welcome Christmas / Come this way)

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing I was trying to prevent: I don’t want just memorable songs about the villain; it has to be songs that the producers were so proud of they made it the theme song of the entire production.

Besides, that’s not a movie!

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**Author:** ![from\_a\_to\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@from\_a\_to\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/from_a_to_z)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/22 "2014-10-30T01:28:08Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Theme from “Jaws”?

Good one. [Here](http://textualsongs.blogspot.com/2009/12/jaws-theme-song.html) are the lyrics:

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> Duuun dun duuun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun BOM BOM dun  
> dun dun dun dun dun doo dedoo doo dedoo dede doo dede doo  
> dededoo

My nomination is “[Alfie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_%28song%29)”, the Burt Bacharach and Hal David song in “[Alfie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_%281966_film%29)”. Aside from his treatment of women, Alfie is surely his own worst enemy.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/23 "2014-10-30T03:30:15Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Theme from “Jaws”?

Huh. Not really on topic, but I just realized right now that the [Jaws theme](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCI-gNK_y4) sounds just like [Stravinsky](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWotpIy0uTg&feature=player_detailpage#t=200). I guess I should go post it in my “obvious stuff you just noticed” thread.

Anyway. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/24 "2014-10-30T03:49:08Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Huh. Not really on topic, but I just realized right now that the [Jaws theme](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCI-gNK_y4) sounds just like [Stravinsky](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWotpIy0uTg&feature=player_detailpage#t=200). I guess I should go post it in my “obvious stuff you just noticed” thread.
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> Anyway. Carry on.

It sounds even more like [Dvorak](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9OBf8f55tU).

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/25 "2014-10-30T15:11:11Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Huh. Not really on topic, but I just realized right now that the [Jaws theme](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCI-gNK_y4) sounds just like [Stravinsky](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWotpIy0uTg&feature=player_detailpage#t=200). I guess I should go post it in my “obvious stuff you just noticed” thread.
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> Anyway. Carry on.

To me, it sounds like Prokofiev’s score for the big battle scene on the ice, between the Russians and the Teutonic Knights, in the epic film \*\*\*Alexander Nevsky. \*\*\*

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/26 "2014-10-30T15:58:13Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I was listening to my collection of James Bond Theme Songs, and noticed that two of them (\*Goldfinger \*and _The Man With The Golden Gun_) are songs specifically about the villain of the movie. But try as I might, I couldn’t think of any other movies where the movie theme song itself (not some incidental song or theme in the soundtrack) is about the villain.
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> But there must be some others. What am I missing?

Hey! Bond fan! Aren’t you forgetting “Thunderball?”

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/27 "2014-10-30T16:44:54Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> Hey! Bond fan! Aren’t you forgetting “Thunderball?”

I read those lyrics as being about Bond…

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/28 "2014-10-30T17:36:51Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Is that the theme song?

I’m the first person you asked about this?!

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> I would have guessed the theme song would have been the “Welcome Christmas” song. (Fah who fra-ze / Dah who dra-ze /Welcome Christmas / Come this way)

I don’t remember that song at all. I bet “Mister Grinch” is the only song most people remember from the animated version of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas.”

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/29 "2014-10-30T17:38:20Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> Hey! Bond fan! Aren’t you forgetting “Thunderball?”

The villain was named Emilio Largo, not Thunderball. The song was in no way about him. “Operation Thunderball” was MI6’s scheme to recover the stolen weapons. The song could arguably be said to be about Bond, but I don’t see how it applies to Largo.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/30 "2014-10-30T20:48:26Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> The villain was named Emilio Largo, not Thunderball. The song was in no way about him. “Operation Thunderball” was MI6’s scheme to recover the stolen weapons. The song could arguably be said to be about Bond, but I don’t see how it applies to Largo.

Suit yourself. I get villain vibes every time I hear it.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/31 "2014-11-03T05:51:53Z")

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Mike Myers theme song from Halloween.

Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/32 "2014-11-03T13:13:57Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> The villain was named Emilio Largo, not Thunderball. The song was in no way about him. “Operation Thunderball” was MI6’s scheme to recover the stolen weapons. The song could arguably be said to be about Bond, but I don’t see how it applies to Largo.

I know that the song is “Thunderball”, and there’s nobody of that name in the film (as noted, it’s the name of the operation), but the song is clearly about a person, possibly metaphotrically.

and this person is a pretty grabby, antisocial individual --“He acts while other men just talk”. “He looks at the world and wants it all”. “His needs are more, so he gives less.” Sounds like a Bond villain.

Of course, a lot of critics have declared being anti-Bond in recent years, and I’m sure they’d say the above lines characterize the materialistic and misogynistic Bond. After all, his family motto is “The World is not Enough.” Looks at The World And Wants It All, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/33 "2014-11-03T16:40:05Z")

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Not a lot of people realize this, but the fiddler on the roof was actually a sniper.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/34 "2014-11-03T19:44:40Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Not a lot of people realize this, but the fiddler on the roof was actually a sniper.

It was a German sniper wasn’t it? 😃

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/35 "2014-11-03T20:00:15Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> It was a German sniper wasn’t it? 😃

Don’t be silly.

He was Russian.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-theme-songs-that-are-about-the-villain/702801/36 "2014-11-03T20:02:15Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Don’t be silly.
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> He was Russian.

I don’t care if he WAS in a hurry!

(That’s enough outta me. 🙂 )

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