# Movie trivia you noticed yourself.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889 "2014-10-09T19:46:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Private\_Bin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@Private\_Bin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Private_Bin)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/41 "2014-10-11T21:35:54Z")

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An easy one- in _Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull_, Harrison Ford uses his famous Star Wars line: “I’ve got a bad feeling about this”.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/42 "2014-10-11T23:10:29Z")

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> [@Telperion](#):
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> Doesn’t seem too odd to me. A high-caliber rifle would leave an exit wound and automatic pistols didn’t exist in the 1880’s, so there’s not all that much else it could be.

The only one of Rathbone/Bruce movies set at that time is “Hound of the Baskervilles”. If the scene is from that movie, then you’re correct. The rest of those movies were set in the time they were filmed, 1939-46.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/43 "2014-10-12T20:56:53Z")

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I notice errors all the time. Some of them are listed at IMDb, some aren’t.

E.g., in _The Big Lebowski_, the floating empty bottle near Karl in the pool changes position based on the shot. When the taxi driver stops to throw The Dude out, he he stopped in the first travel lane from one angle and next to the curb (in the parking spots) in another.

I notice a lot of “Oh, these two actors were also in this other movie together as well.” Especially when in one movie, say, a couple play a brother and a sister and in a later movie are lovers. (Squickiness ensues.) Problem is, I get people confused and when I look them up I am wrong sometimes.

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**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/44 "2014-10-12T22:28:03Z")

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I like asking older Star Trek fans if Leonard Nimoy’s name appeared in the opening credits of _Star Trek III: The Search for Spock_. They may remember that it wasn’t clear when the film was released if Nimoy was definitely going to come back in the role he made famous.

The answer is yes. The trick is that he shows up as _the director_, not as an actor.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/45 "2014-10-13T02:16:11Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> The only one of Rathbone/Bruce movies set at that time is “Hound of the Baskervilles”. If the scene is from that movie, then you’re correct. The rest of those movies were set in the time they were filmed, 1939-46.

Not quite true – the _second_ of the Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce Sherlock Holmes films was also set in the proper Victorian time spot. **The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes** is an original story featuring Moriarty as the Bad Guy. It’s pretty decent, if not great. For some reason, after this one they transported Holmes to the then-modern-day 1940s.

> **[The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Sherlock_Holmes_(film))**
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> The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (released theatrically as Sherlock Holmes in the United Kingdom) is a 1939 American mystery adventure film based on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes detective stories. Although claiming to be an adaptation of the 1899 play Sherlock Holmes by William Gillette, the film bears little resemblance to the play.
> Released by 20th Century-Fox, the film is the second of fourteen Sherlock Holmes films produced between 1939 and 1946, starring Basil Rathbone as Sherl...

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**Author:** ![Chicago\_Faucet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chicago_faucet/32/13910_2.png) [@Chicago\_Faucet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicago_Faucet)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/46 "2014-10-13T04:06:07Z")

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This isn’t mine, but I’ll still take credit for it.

The actor who is playing the new Dr. Who was a doctor of WHO (World Health Organization) in World War Z.

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**Author:** ![Private\_Bin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@Private\_Bin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Private_Bin)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/47 "2014-10-13T07:21:31Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> I notice errors all the time. Some of them are listed at IMDb, some aren’t.
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> E.g., in _The Big Lebowski_, the floating empty bottle near Karl in the pool changes position based on the shot. When the taxi driver stops to throw The Dude out, he he stopped in the first travel lane from one angle and next to the curb (in the parking spots) in another.
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> I notice a lot of “Oh, these two actors were also in this other movie together as well.” Especially when in one movie, say, a couple play a brother and a sister and in a later movie are lovers. (Squickiness ensues.) Problem is, I get people confused and when I look them up I am wrong sometimes.

Do you tell people these thing as they happen, or just keep them in the locker?

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/48 "2014-10-13T07:43:40Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> In _You’ve Got Mail_, at the end when Meg Ryan is sitting in Fox Books spelling out the name “Streatfeild,” she misspells it. And not in the understandable way, either.

What’s the context for this? that’s the correct spelling of the name of the famous children’s author who wrote _Ballet Shoes_.

I noticed that in _Wait Until Dark_, the Braille that Audrey Hepburn as Suzi is writing is nonsense. It’s just random dots that doesn’t make any words, let alone the numbers it’s supposed to be.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/49 "2014-10-13T11:37:04Z")

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I saw _Wait Until Dark_ a couple of years ago, but I can’t remember a scene where Audrey Hepburn was writing in Braille. Could you refresh my memory?

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/50 "2014-10-13T12:34:45Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> So does _Batman And Robin_.

Had to look that one up. Wow.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/51 "2014-10-13T13:13:43Z")

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In Home Alone, when the older cousins is counting kids in front of the airport van, not only does she count the neighbor kid as Macauley Culkin… she counts herself twice. So Kevin wasn’t the only kid who got left behind…?

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/52 "2014-10-13T13:14:46Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> What’s the context for this? that’s the correct spelling of the name of the famous children’s author who wrote _Ballet Shoes_.

Yes, I typed out the correct spelling. When she spells it out loud, iirc, she spells it “S-T-R-A-E…”

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/53 "2014-10-13T15:11:50Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I saw _Wait Until Dark_ a couple of years ago, but I can’t remember a scene where Audrey Hepburn was writing in Braille. Could you refresh my memory?

I have a file of the movie on my desktop (I’m on my laptop now). When I get a chance, I’ll take a screenshot of it and post a link. I might not get to it for a while, but I’ll try to do it by the end of today.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/54 "2014-10-13T15:41:39Z")

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One that I found out while discussing movies on this message board: in **The Empire Strikes Back** , there’s a subplot involving two Imperial officers, Ozzel and Piett. Captain Piett is made an admiral to replace the hapless Admiral Ozzel when Vader force-strangles him for coming out of hyperspace too early on the Hoth approach. At the end of the movie, when the Falcon goes into hyperspace and escapes, Piett has an “oh shit” moment as he realizes his force-choking is coming.

Anyway, the guy who played Piett, Kenneth Colley, played Jesus in Monty Python’s **Life of Brian**. And the guy who played Ozzel, Michael Sheard, has played Hitler about half a dozen times, including in **Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade**. So, in their scenes together, you have a guy who played Jesus and a guy who played Hitler hanging out with Darth Vader.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/55 "2014-10-13T21:35:52Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I have a file of the movie on my desktop (I’m on my laptop now). When I get a chance, I’ll take a screenshot of it and post a link. I might not get to it for a while, but I’ll try to do it by the end of today.

Thanks very much. I look forward to seeing that. 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/56 "2014-10-16T22:59:39Z")

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In the 1980 film Altered Statesthe hero transforms into a wild creature one night and awakes the next morning in an enclosure for wolves at the city zoo. In An American Werewolf in London, also released in 1980, the hero transforms into a wild creature one night and awakes the next morning in an enclosure for wolves at the city zoo. Danny Perry pointed this out in one of his Cult Filmsbooks.

In the 1986 film BurglarWhoopi Goldberg is a fugitive wanted for a murder she did not commit. She arranges a meeting with the only person who knows for a fact she is innocent. They meet at the city aquarium. In The Bedroom Window, also released in 1986, Steve Gutenberg is a fugitive wanted for a murder he did not commit. He arranges a meeting with the only person who knows for a fact he is innocent. They meet at the city aquarium.

The coincidence about the meeting place can perhaps be explained by considering that in The Lady from Shanghai Orson Welles is falsely accused of murder. He arranges a meeting with someone who knows of his innocence in the city aquarium. Welles, in turn, may have been influenced by Alfred Hitchcock’s film Sabotage where two men hold a clandestine meeting at the city aquarium.

In the 1986 film Howard the Duck a group of people who have been witness to hair-raising inexplicable events go to an all-night diner to regroup. There they receive an important message when one of them becomes possessed and channels a message from an otherworldly force. In the similarly awful 1986 film Poltergeist II a group of people who have been witness to a hair-raising inexplicable events go to an all-night diner to regroup. There they receive an important message when a stranger becomes possessed and channels a message from an otherworldly force.

When Jean Adair makes her first appearance in Arsenic and Old Lace she is coming through the front door holding a small bucket with a lid. When she is next shown it has disappeared. Her sister, Josephine Hull then comes from the kitchen with a container of homemade soup which she gives a policeman. The container is the bucket Adair had been holding. This is one of my all-time favorite films and I suppose I had seen it at least a half dozen times before I noticed this.

I’m kind of sorry I brought up the business about Dr. Watson and the revolver.

The first two Sherlock Holmes films with Rathbone and Bruce were released in 1939 by 20th Century–Fox. They were set in Victorian times. I’m confident the film I was describing was one of the twelve Universal Studios releases from the 1940s, all of which were set in the 1940s.

IIRC, the victim was lying facedown and had been shot from the front, so it is possible that there would realistically have been no bullet wound showing. It would even have been possible he had been stabbed. The possibility about the absence of a spent cartridge had occurred to me, but it is possible the spent cartridge would have been in a place out of sight, such as under the victim. It would, in any case, have been greatly out of character for Nigel Bruce’s character to have noticed this immediately and to have drawn a conclusion, as his Dr. Watson was famous for his obtuseness. I suspect the screenwriter simply liked the stuffy drawing room “feel” of saying “revolver” where he could and didn’t give it much thought.

On the subject of the Holmes movies, Professor Moriarty appeared three times: in the Fox film The Adventures of Sherlock Holmeshe was played by George Zucco. In the Universal filmSherlock Holmes and the Secret Weaponhe was played by Lionel Atwill. In the Universal filmThe Woman in Greenhe was played by Henry Daniell. Each time he appeared to die by falling from a great height. This is how he died in Conan Doyle’s story The Final Problem. Zucco and Daniell appeared together as Nazi spies in another of the Universal films with Rathbone as Holmes, Sherlock Holmes in Washington.

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/57 "2014-10-17T05:50:31Z")

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Just noticed one tonight that I’ve never heard mentioned. In _Twin Peaks_, the mother of murder victim Laura Palmer is played by Grace Zabriskie, and the doctor who pronounces her dead is played by Warren Frost. (who also happens to be the real-life father of the co-writer of the series)

A few years later, Grace Zabriskie and Warren Frost portray the parents of Susan, George Costanza’s fiance, on _Seinfeld_, who is killed by licking cheap wedding invitation envelopes.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/58 "2014-10-18T19:05:23Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I have a file of the movie on my desktop (I’m on my laptop now). When I get a chance, I’ll take a screenshot of it and post a link. I might not get to it for a while, but I’ll try to do it by the end of today.

Did you get it?

> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Just noticed one tonight that I’ve never heard mentioned. In _Twin Peaks_, the mother of murder victim Laura Palmer is played by Grace Zabriskie, and the doctor who pronounces her dead is played by Warren Frost. (who also happens to be the real-life father of the co-writer of the series)
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> A few years later, Grace Zabriskie and Warren Frost portray the parents of Susan, George Costanza’s fiance, on _Seinfeld_, who is killed by licking cheap wedding invitation envelopes.

I noticed this when Seinfeld aired. It’s cute.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/59 "2014-10-18T22:38:45Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Did you get it?

No. I tried, but the snapshot function on VLC isn’t working right now, for some reason. I’m not sure what I need to do-- try it in IE; see if the file will run in windows movie player; copy the file to a flash drive, and try it on my laptop, and see if it works in Win8.

Anyway, there are a couple of scenes where they show what she’s written, and the one I just looked at said “PUPUCCCC”. (I know the period goes inside the quotes, but I wanted it clear that the period was not part of the Braille writing.) Later, we see more writing, and it’s something like “SH-CH-EN”, and it’s supposed to be a phone number. It’s not even like it’s just the wrong number. There’s no number sign, and no digits-- it’s complete gibberish.

Obviously, Hepburn was just making random punches on the paper, and in 1967 no one conceived of home theater systems where people could slow down, rewind, pause, and take screenshots of individual frames. No one thought anyone would get a close look at it, and at any rate, the majority of people who know Braille are blind and wouldn’t see the mistake. I happen to know the Braille alphabet, and some contractions because when I was interpreting, I had a Deaf-blind endorsement, so I took a Braille seminar. But now, anyone who wants can look up Braille on the internet and compare a screenshot to the alphabet.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movie-trivia-you-noticed-yourself/700889/60 "2014-10-18T23:28:49Z")

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> [@Chicago\_Faucet](#):
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> This isn’t mine, but I’ll still take credit for it.
> 
> The actor who is playing the new Dr. Who was a doctor of WHO (World Health Organization) in World War Z.

_Both_ of the lead actors in _Withnail and I_, Paul McGann and Richard E. Grant, went on to play the Doctor.

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