# Moviemaking techniques that you would steal, er, emulate.

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**Created:** [November 29, 2002, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moviemaking-techniques-that-you-would-steal-er-emulate/139476 "2002-11-29T08:13:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leechboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@Leechboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leechboy)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moviemaking-techniques-that-you-would-steal-er-emulate/139476/21 "2002-12-01T11:41:07Z")

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Most Bergman films use little or no non diegetic music, and and more powerful for it.  
As for me, I’d rip just about everything Joseph Lewis did off for a start (Long takes, single source lighting etc.)

Bergman’s use of closeup

Hal Hartley’s over-blocked character movement.

Howard Hawks overlapping dialogue.

David Lynch (Or Alan Splet to be precise)'s sound design.

Takeshi Kitano’s shooting while editing technique.

The Ozu angle at least once.

Tourner’s use of suggestion rather than overtly showing an act.

Oliviers sense of use the set as a character.

Kurosawa’s wavex of fighters for battle scenes

…and the list goes on.

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**Author:** ![partly\_warmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@partly\_warmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/partly_warmer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moviemaking-techniques-that-you-would-steal-er-emulate/139476/22 "2002-12-01T11:46:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gex gex \*  
> \*\*This just screams _A Clockwork Orange_ to me. Did Kubrick pioneer the technique? \*\*

I realize this is subjective; as such, so perhaps it’s appropriate to respond with a entirely subjective response.

When I watched “A Clockwork Orange” for the first time I was so elated that I walked miles–kid you not–though a slum–one of the most dangerous cities in the state–at 2 in the morning . . . singing. I have never before or since been so affected by a soundtrack.

Chalk another one up to the subjective aspect of art appreciation.

And to continue the subjectity, when I years later bought the VHS tape, I was so angry at the early rape scene that I literally broke the tape apart with my bare hands.

Such is the artistic experience.

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**Author:** ![Fnoonf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@Fnoonf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fnoonf)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moviemaking-techniques-that-you-would-steal-er-emulate/139476/23 "2002-12-01T19:51:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Firebat023 \*  
> \*\*My own personal choice is for /no/ soundtrack. I don’t know if anyone has pioneered this yet. But it seems to me that a movie without a soundtrack (or a very, very distant one) is more powerful than one with.  
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This has indeed been done. I don’t know if it was a pioneering work as such (probably wasn’t), but **Day of the Jackal** , the political thriller that was later remade as **The Jackal** (starring Bruce Willis), was just such a film. There’s not the tiniest hint of an external soundtrack throughout the whole movie. Come to think of it, I don’t even think it has music during the beginning or end credits. Really adds atmosphere and intensity to the whole thing.

Incidentally, the film itself is also pretty good. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moviemaking-techniques-that-you-would-steal-er-emulate/139476/24 "2002-12-01T23:42:46Z")

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The musical _New York, New York_, with Robert DeNiro as a big band leader and Liza Minelli as his love interest has no external soundtrack until the closing moment of the film.

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