# Movies and TV shows named for a non-lead character

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\
**Created:** [January 30, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049 "2023-01-30T11:57:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/21 "2023-01-30T17:52:10Z")

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Dr No is barely in, erm, Dr No.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/22 "2023-01-30T17:55:33Z")

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Then how about _Waiting for Guffman_?

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/23 "2023-01-30T18:23:39Z")

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Or _Waiting for Lefty_.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/24 "2023-01-30T18:29:37Z")

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A couple further ideas:

- _The Big Lebowski_: The movie is about a slacker named Jeffrey Lebowski, not the “Big” Lebowski, a millionaire with the same name who barely appears in the film.
- Peter Jackson’s _The Lord of the Rings_ trilogy: The title refers to the Dark Lord Sauron, who sets the plot in motion but who appears bodily in only a brief flashback.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/25 "2023-01-30T18:31:12Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> The title refers to the Dark Lord Sauron, who sets the plot in motion but who appears bodily in only a brief flashback.

And, from time to time (though, again, only briefly), as a giant disembodied fiery eye. 😃

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/26 "2023-01-30T18:39:11Z")

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The entire Thin Man series of movies and the TV show.

The “Thin Man” was not the William Powell character but the person of interest in the first movie.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/27 "2023-01-30T18:58:02Z")

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_Waking Ned Devine_

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/28 "2023-01-30T19:01:57Z")

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The Zodiac Killer isn’t in Zodiac much.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/29 "2023-01-30T19:02:08Z")

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A twofer: **To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar**

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/30 "2023-01-30T19:02:21Z")

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> [@iamatractorboy](#):
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> The Zodiac Killer isn’t in Zodiac much.

Or is he?

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/31 "2023-01-30T19:03:01Z")

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…or she?

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/32 "2023-01-30T19:15:34Z")

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_The Iceman Cometh_

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/33 "2023-01-30T19:38:03Z")

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They’re not characters at all, but the title of _Glengarry Glen Ross_ seems like it _should_ be in reference to the name of a character, and I would wager that a huge portion of the moviegoing public assumed that Glengarry Glen Ross was the name of either one main character, several main characters, and/or the name of the real estate firm in the movie. But they’re not. In perhaps a deliberately obtuse move by David Mamet, the title refers to two separate land-development schemes in the plot - one called Glengarry, the other called Glen Ross - which were oddly thrown together to create the three-word title, and which are barely ever referred to in any of the movie’s dialog.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/34 "2023-01-30T19:38:45Z")

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And then there’s The Third Man.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/35 "2023-01-30T20:00:09Z")

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_Better Call Saul_

Saul doesn’t appear until the season 4 finale

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/36 "2023-01-30T20:12:12Z")

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Doesn’t Jimmy make a commercial with ‘Saul Goodman’ in a cheap wig and stick on facial hair in an early episode? I could be misremembering.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/37 "2023-01-30T20:21:37Z")

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_ **The Postman Always Rings Twice** _

_ **I Love You, Alice B. Toklas** _

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/38 "2023-01-30T20:40:02Z")

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How about Fargo? The story mostly takes place in Brainerd.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/39 "2023-01-30T21:59:47Z")

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_The Last of Shiela_. Shiela died a year before.

_Duffy’s Tavern_ was an early TV show based on a radio show. Duffy never appears, though he does call occasionally.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-and-tv-shows-named-for-a-non-lead-character/979049/40 "2023-01-30T22:06:03Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> _Duffy’s Tavern_ was an early TV show based on a radio show. Duffy never appears, though he does call occasionally.

Like “Charlie” on _ **Charlie’s Angels** _.

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