# Movies banned in the USA

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 12, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355 "2003-06-12T16:03:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355/61 "2003-06-16T02:59:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by JRDelirious \*  
> **Evil Captor, the key to what you mention about hardcore bondage is that parenthetical _“(in effect)”_: it is STILL a " local community" issue, but these depictions become “banned in effect” because there have been enough cases in enough places where this depiction has been found “obscene”, to make it unworthwhile for anyone to produce them… except Flynt, known for testing the boundaries of “obscenity” law, and even he will not ship _Taboo_ to some locations where he knows it’s already settled. There’s no specific statute outlawing bound-woman hardcore, or hardcore depictions of simulated rape, or of fisting. Just too many communities where those are considered obscene.**

What I have heard from some bondage site owners was that their legal counsel (or more accuratley, the legal counsel for the trade groups they belonged to, had advised them that they stood in jeopardy of being prosecuted if they produced explicit sexual bondage imagery. Though there’s no federal law agaisnt it, nobody except Flynt is willing to risk becoming a person whose life is transformed from being about sex and bondage and fun to one whose life is about courts and lawyers and perhaps, a jail cell.

What I find absurd about it is the specificity of the (effective) ban and most pointedly, the lack of distinction between consesual sexual bondage imagery and rape imagery. It’s like not making a distinction between sex and rape. Two completely different animals.

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355/62 "2003-06-16T16:41:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \*  
> \*\*Yeah, it’s the Irons version. I remember reading an article discussing the making of the film, and describing the problems the filmmakers had during the production of the film, and comparing them to the problems that Kubrick had (namely that Nabokov’s original script would have come in at 7 hours long). The article was updated and discussed how it would have been _impossible_ to shoot Lyne’s version after the “Child Protection Act” (or whatever it was called) was passed (and then overturned by SCOTUS). The one thing I remember from the article was it saying that during the scenes where Lolita was bouncing up and down on Irons lap, he had to have a board between him and her, so that there could be no physical contact between his crotch and hers. One of the members of the cast (not Irons) stated, that the actress who played Lolita had read the book before she read the script and was rather blase about the whole thing. \*\*

Thanks for the clarification, **Tuckerfan.** I was remembering the problems they ran into after the film was complete and wasn’t aware of the problems they had during the filming itself.

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**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355/63 "2003-06-16T16:55:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> **The OP asked for “movies that, legally, absolutely CANNOT be shown in the US?” The documentary _Titicut Follies_ could not be shown 1967-1992**

CANNOT is not the same as COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-banned-in-the-usa/181355/64 "2003-06-17T03:04:27Z")

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KGS writes:

\> Well, at [http://www.lot47.com](http://www.lot47.com) – the film studio that produced  
\> L.I.E., but the link doesn’t work at the moment – they  
\> represented Lyne’s version of Lolita as rated NC-17, so maybe  
\> they lied.

The IMDb says that _Lolita_ was rated R. I got my information about the ratings of _L.I.E._ and _Happiness_ from the same place. I haven’t seen these films.

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