# Movies Centered Around Single Outcast Women?

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**Created:** [December 6, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582 "2021-12-06T18:46:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/21 "2021-12-07T11:01:19Z")

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My thoughts immediately jumped to [The Homesman](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2398231/), an “unmarriable” woman in the wild west employs a drifter to help transport three women driven mad by frontier life to a church. It was excellent.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/22 "2021-12-07T12:01:43Z")

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> [@MortSahlFan](#):
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> I tend to love these movies. I just used the term “Outcast” as am umbrella. It could be a 35-yr old woman who’s a virgin (Rachel, Rachel) or a woman who might be shy, overweight (Sugarbaby)… Especially movies where there might be characters, but they’re in the background while we see her in public, but also in private, when she’s all alone. She might be crying, over-eating, watching TV, being home all day in sadness, talking to herself or in silence,

I feel like I get what you’re saying, but you might as well be describing Bridget Jones (which might count, for all I know). Not a virgin, but in her 30s, single, having trouble finding a relationship, a bit awkward, “Hollywood fat” (AKA “normal weight”), drinks (“Hollywood drunk” as in drinks a lot but only gets drunk enough to create comedic incidents to drive the plot), etc.

Maybe Wynona Ryder in “Girl Interrupted” where she’s in a mental institution.

Sandra Bullock in “28 Days” where her drinking causes her to be ostracized from pretty much everyone except her enabling douchey boyfriend?

“Byzantine” stars Gemma Arterton and Saoirse Ronan as mother/daughter vampires outcast from both human and vampire society.

I guess maybe I’m not clear if you mean “outcast” as “pathetic woman with problems” or just “lonely woman trying to get by”.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/23 "2021-12-07T13:08:40Z")

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Consider me confused as well but would Australian comedy **Muriel’s Wedding** fit?

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/24 "2021-12-07T13:31:53Z")

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How about Gaslight? Granted she’s not single by either definition, but right from the moment she was married, she became more and more of an outcast and became more and more isolated as both she and the rest of the community thought she had a mental illness. As she would confide in people that she didn’t know what was going on, they’d write it off, just like you’d nod and smile as your neighbor with dementia tells you about the underpants gnomes that show up every night to steal his underpants.

Suddenly, Last Summer might work as well. About a woman that was traumatized by her cousin’s death. However, instead of helping her to work through the trauma, they force her to suppress it, to the point that they end up institutionalizing her both because she’s going mad from the stress and just to keep her quiet (the family didn’t want people knowing how or why he died).

One of the threads that runs throughout Cat on a Hot Tin Roof works as well. Other than his father, Brick’s entire family really doesn’t like Maggie. Even Brick told her to go have an affair with someone. However, by the end he and Maggie kinda sorta patch things up.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/25 "2021-12-07T13:34:52Z")

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I liked that movie, but haven’t seen it for so long. But I remember her either being with her family or her new friend.

“I haven’t listened to ABBA since I’ve met you!”  
“Goodbye, Porpoise Pit!”

are a few things I remember, too… And the scary “I can’t feel my legs”

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/26 "2021-12-07T13:37:18Z")

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lol @ underpants gnomes

I see what you mean, but none of these women are physically alone - being the only one on the screen for a good amount of time. Time to reflect, time to ponder, etc… Getting to know a character when she is alone, because she’s herself - not putting an act at work, for example, because she’s not being watched.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/27 "2021-12-07T13:40:31Z")

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_Nomadland_? Also, do horror films count, like _Misery_ or _Carnival of Souls_?

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/28 "2021-12-07T13:43:50Z")

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I’m surprised no one mentioned “Nomadland” but I remember her being alone for a good amount of time in the beginning. I saw those others, too, but “Misery” is one I haven’t seen in 20 years. I’ve been wanting to see it again. I only remember her and James Caan.

I didn’t mention it in my OP, but drama is what I was getting at. Glad you posed that question.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/29 "2021-12-07T13:46:27Z")

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_Frances Ha_?

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/30 "2021-12-07T13:48:14Z")

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I saw that about 3-4 years ago, and the only thing I remembered about it was that it was a new movie done in b&w 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/31 "2021-12-07T15:50:31Z")

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In that vain, I like the 2011 movie, “Haywire”, with Gina Carano. She is an operative whose agency burns her and murders her love interest and only ally because they want her to be the “fall guy” for an off book operation that went sideways. The main character definitely fits the description of an outcast, and how she manages to resolve it all made for a good movie.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/32 "2021-12-07T18:03:27Z")

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The feel-good high budget masterpiece [_Edna the Inebriate Woman._](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYK322pWyks&t=27s)

> [@Lamoral](#):
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> This might be a lot darker and more…I’m looking for the right word here…“sadistic” maybe, in the way the characters are put through various degrading scenarios - but [“Happiness”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_(1998_film)) might be an example of such a film.

For Todd Solondz, I’d rather go with _Welcome to the Dollhouse_.

_Vera Drake_

_The Lady in the Van_

_May_

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_Three Colors: Blue_

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/34 "2021-12-07T19:07:50Z")

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Bagdad Cafe (1987, directed by Percy Adlon). On the whole, the female protagonists aren’t really alone or alienated, although they face plenty of loneliness and alienation along the way. What an extraordinary film and what an uplifting experience it was for me to see it again 30-something years later.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/35 "2021-12-07T19:18:38Z")

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Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles

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> Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (French pronunciation: ​\[ʒan dilman vɛ̃ntʁwɑ ke dy kɔmeʁs milkatʁəvɛ̃ bʁysɛl\], "Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels") is a 1975 film written and directed by Belgian filmmaker Chantal Akerman. It was filmed over five weeks on location in Brussels, and financed through a $120,000 grant awarded by the Belgian government. Distinguished by its restrained pace, long takes, and static cam...

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Although she has some people around her, **Mildred** in **Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri** is a pretty lonely figure.

TCMF-2L

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_The Effect of Gamma Rays in Man-In-The Moon Marigolds_ has both Matilda – a middle school outcast – and her single mother who is pretty much on her own, partly due to her own fault.

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How about _The Sterile Cuckoo_? Liza Minnelli seems to be a clever free spirit in the beginning, and devolves into a lonely, clingy misfit who drives away her nice guy boyfriend.

_The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie_ is another example of a seemingly well integrated personality coming apart.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-centered-around-single-outcast-women/955582/39 "2021-12-07T23:04:17Z")

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When Charleze Theron “uglied-up” for _Monster_ in 2003, it was hailed as courageous and unique. But only for its time. On TMC on Demand you could pull up Ingrid Bergman’s [A Woman’s Face](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Woman%27s_Face_(1938_film)), which was remade by Hollywood with Joan Crawford. Olivia de Havilland did _Snake Pit,_ and Eleanor Parker wasn’t afraid to get mussed up for _Caged_ or _The Man with the Golden Arm._

These were women from the Goddess era, but they weren’t worried about ruining their images then, or even later when they had to take parts as [Psycho-biddies](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psycho-biddy_films). It was the actresses during the Sexual Revolution who couldn’t compromise their sex appeal.

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Sharon Stone’s character in “The Quick and the Dead” is mysterious, on a mission, keeps to herself.

[Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FbuXkp18H8)

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