# Movies: do bad guys win?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 29, 2000, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-do-bad-guys-win/14241 "2000-02-29T10:37:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-do-bad-guys-win/14241/41 "2000-03-02T15:46:00Z")

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_Wild Things_ with Neve Campbell and Kevin Bacon.

Very good movie, with lots of plot twists.

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Wrong thinking is punished, right thinking is just as swiftly rewarded. You’ll find it an effective combination.

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**Author:** ![El\_Smasho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@El\_Smasho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Smasho)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-do-bad-guys-win/14241/42 "2000-03-03T06:57:00Z")

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WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Big Brother is Watching You.

Man, _1984_ is one of those stories that just CREEP teh hell out of me…

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Hey, if it ain’t broke, give ME a shot at it.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-do-bad-guys-win/14241/43 "2000-03-03T00:37:00Z")

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_Reservoir Dogs._ Not many characters walk away from that one, in fact, pretty much everyone shown on screen dies.

_Swimming With Sharks._ No character’s innocence survives. Heckuva flick, btw.

Hollywood isn’t going to make many pictures where good loses. It’s just not in their nature. Bad for repeat business, and Joe Moviegoer won’t drag the whelps back for more popcorn. Stick with indie/noir pics, and you’ll see some of the darker sides of life.  
::stops, shakes head:: Just realized I’m basically preaching to the choir here, as I’m sure that the smarter-than-average foks on the board already know this. Never mind me.

Justin

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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-do-bad-guys-win/14241/44 "2000-03-03T00:47:00Z")

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Shanghai Triad.

Every sympathetic character dies. A little girl is going to be trained to become a slutty lounge singer. The hero last seen swinging upside down on the sail of a crime lord’s junk.

Gotta love those Chinese Mafia movies.

–John

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'Twis brillig, and the slithy toves  
Did gyre and gymble in the wabe.  
Mimsy were the borogroves,  
And the momeraths outgrabe.

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