# Movies Everybody Else Likes Which You Hate...And Vice-Versa

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 1, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572 "2012-11-01T15:51:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![RockytheflyingS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RockytheflyingS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RockytheflyingS)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/141 "2012-11-08T04:58:01Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> I found **The Dark Knight** to be awful: a failure on every level. A bad Batman movie, a bad thiller, a bad blockbuster. The action was clunky, the writing uninteresting, the story clumsy, and the morality dull. Heath Ledger’s performance was the sole bright spot, but didn’t come close to redeeming it for me. My wife, my best friend, and the critic on _Fresh Air_ agreed. They seem to be nearly the only ones.

I didn’t like The Dark Knight, either. As a Heath Ledger fan, way before he was the joker, I don’t think it’s his best role. So, I kind of have a resent for that movie. I think to a big portion of people he’ll be known as “that guy who won the Oscar, because he died”. :rolleyes: Then again, the way the Oscars were held that year I’m glad he was cremated or they would dragged his dead body on stage for views. ☹

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**Author:** ![RockytheflyingS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RockytheflyingS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RockytheflyingS)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/142 "2012-11-08T05:03:12Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> OK, Metacritic. Evil Dead isn’t on there but the other two are. Not as high scores as IMDB, but both above 50. And this is “garbage”?
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> [Evil Dead 2 - 69](http://www.metacritic.com/movie/evil-dead-ii)  
> [Army of Darkness - 57](http://www.metacritic.com/movie/army-of-darkness)
> 
> This thread gives me exactly the same vibe as discussing politics with my Parents. They really quite often say “everyone thinks” when what they really mean is “Me, my Partner and the newspaper I read thinks”.

57 is hardly a good review. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RockytheflyingS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RockytheflyingS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RockytheflyingS)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/143 "2012-11-08T05:05:12Z")

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> [@Hottius\_Maximus](#):
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> I’ve posted these before but I still despise them:
> 
> Sideways  
> Animal House (FOUR FUNNY SCENES! THAT’S IT!)  
> Napolean Dynamite  
> Silence of the Lambs (NOT SCARY AT ALL)  
> Some Like It Hot (NOT FUNNY AT ALL)  
> Most anything from Kevin Smith, especially Dogma and Clerks.  
> Avatar  
> The Hangover  
> The Shining (\*\*Nicholson \*\*simply plays Nicholson in any movie he is in)
> 
> Movies I liked that others hated?
> 
> The Horn Blows At Midnight (not a great film but not as bad as everyone says it is)  
> Bonfire of the Vanities (I actually thought it had a very accurate message; I think audiences found the truth difficult to take)  
> Plan 9 From Outer Space & Bride of the Monster (okay so Ed Wood was not trying to make comedies, but at least I could enjoy them on that level)  
> Without A Clue (not so much a hated film but definitely underrated; it never got the publicity that it deserved)

I’ve never gotten how Nicholson has gotten so far in Hollywood. He has limited range, lost his looks and body fairly young (he was very handsome in his early career), and from things I’ve heard he is very difficult. Why does everyone in Hollywood kiss his ass? 😕

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/144 "2012-11-08T05:11:35Z")

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> [@RockytheflyingS](#):
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> I’ve never gotten how Nicholson has gotten so far in Hollywood. He has limited range, lost his looks and body fairly young (he was very handsome in his early career), and from things I’ve heard he is very difficult. Why does everyone in Hollywood kiss his ass? 😕

Because people are willing to pay to see him in films.

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**Author:** ![Hottius\_Maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hottius\_Maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hottius_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/145 "2012-11-08T05:14:19Z")

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> [@RockytheflyingS](#):
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> I’ve never gotten how Nicholson has gotten so far in Hollywood. He has limited range, lost his looks and body fairly young (he was very handsome in his early career), and from things I’ve heard he is very difficult. Why does everyone in Hollywood kiss his ass? 😕

I agree with you 100% about Nicholson. In fact, I was discussing “The Departed” with my buddy, and we both agreed that Nicholson’s “Whitey Bulger” like mob boss character would have been much more interesting if it had been played by either Martin Sheen or Alec Baldwin. As much as I enjoyed Nicholson’s performance in “A Few Good Men” the fact of the matter is that ANY competent actor could have played the role of Colonel Jessup just as effectively if not better. If I had to say that Jack Nicholson actually did some real acting in recent years, it would have been his performance in “About Schmidt” which in my opinion was not a very interesting or enjoyable movie to have to sit through, but I will give Jack kudos for his portrayal in that film; it’s probably one of the few times I have actually seen him ACT.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/146 "2012-11-08T05:23:01Z")

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Here’s movies I hate. I’d have to watch them again to give better reviews but here’s what I remember:

**The Hangover**. Biggest comedy ever and I barely cracked a smile the whole movie.

**Attack the Block**. Holy balls was it boring.

**The Raid (or The Raid Redemption)**. I kept hearing that it was an action film the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Turned out to be a run of the mill martial arts flick. Nothing new here and done better elsewhere.

**The Departed**. It’s like Scorsese just discovered cell phones and decided he had to make a movie about them. The only part I really liked was Dicaprio’s death. No long drawn out speech, just open the door and splat! You don’t see that with heros very often.

**The Big Lebowski**. Tedious reminder that stoners who say “fuck” every three words and can’t pay their rent are in fact losers and should be hated, and I do hate them. And I hate this movie.

Movies I like:

**Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou**. It’s not great but it’s fun. Bill Murray’s obsession with techno music, the good correspondence stock, sending a red cap and a speedo to people…

**Spartan**. Fairly realistic action movie. Val Kilmer’s delivery is really strange. I chalk it up to the idea that he’s been in the military so long that he isn’t very good at social stuff. Once I decided that, everything fell into place to make it a good movie. If I didn’t decide that, I’d have hated it.

**Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow**. Weird homage to 50s serials. Kinda funny. Watchable.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/147 "2012-11-08T10:01:54Z")

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> [@RockytheflyingS](#):
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> 57 is hardly a good review. :dubious:

I never said it was. I was responding to someone saying that everyone thinks they are garbage.

That’s why I wrote “And this is “garbage”?” The clue is in the post.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/148 "2012-11-08T10:32:58Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> To be fair, IMDB rating [aren’t always the best indicator of popular opinion](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0490668/) (that rating used to be even higher, and was before the whole Brony phenomenon. It was a raid from 4chan to give the movie 10 stars and satirically amazing reviews)

Well, it might suprise you, but most bronies don’t like the earlier generations of MLP.

They see it as childish rubbish

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/149 "2012-11-08T12:59:04Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Here’s movies I hate. I’d have to watch them again to give better reviews but here’s what I remember:
> 
> **The Hangover**. Biggest comedy ever and I barely cracked a smile the whole movie.
> 
> **Attack the Block**. Holy balls was it boring.
> 
> **The Raid (or The Raid Redemption)**. I kept hearing that it was an action film the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Turned out to be a run of the mill martial arts flick. Nothing new here and done better elsewhere.
> 
> **The Departed**. It’s like Scorsese just discovered cell phones and decided he had to make a movie about them. The only part I really liked was Dicaprio’s death. No long drawn out speech, just open the door and splat! You don’t see that with heros very often.
> 
> **The Big Lebowski**. Tedious reminder that stoners who say “fuck” every three words and can’t pay their rent are in fact losers and should be hated, and I do hate them. And I hate this movie.
> 
> Movies I like:
> 
> **Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou**. It’s not great but it’s fun. Bill Murray’s obsession with techno music, the good correspondence stock, sending a red cap and a speedo to people..
> 
> **Spartan**. Fairly realistic action movie. Val Kilmer’s delivery is really strange. I chalk it up to the idea that he’s been in the military so long that he isn’t very good at social stuff. Once I decided that, everything fell into place to make it a good movie. If I didn’t decide that, I’d have hated it.
> 
> **Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow**. Weird homage to 50s serials. Kinda funny. Watchable.

**Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow** wasn’t an homage to 50s serials – it was an homage to 30s pulp fiction like _G8 and his battle aces_, with a side of 1930s/40s comic books and serials (serials were dying by the 50s).

I loved it, myself. It’s more than watchable – it’s underrated.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/150 "2012-11-08T16:17:32Z")

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Another vote for the **Lord of the Rings** movies. All of them.

Walking, walking and more walking. Endless characters who all lack any depth or personality. Seven endings. It was just terrible. That so many people love them is mystifying.

Tim Burton’s **Batman** is awful, yet it gets a lot of love.

Also, every other Tim Burton movie. I’m not aware of him ever making a good one.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/151 "2012-11-08T20:12:31Z")

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Just going with ones that I didn’t see already listed (in most cases, I agree with the majority instead of the poster - or feel lukewarm about it, neither liking nor disliking strongly)

a movie I don’t like that everyone seems to like:

Silence of the Lambs

- I like Jodie Foster’s acting, but I don’t really care for most of the movies she is in. The over-hyped level of suspense they often go for and the exaggerated bad guys ring false to me nearly every time.  
a movie I like that no one much seems to like:

Aeon Flux

- In addition to a no worse than usual nonsense mystical/sci fi plot, it had gorgeous cinematography and credible performances.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/152 "2012-11-10T17:04:04Z")

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I hate Star Wars. I didn’t see the first trilogy until I was about twenty, and then I thought it was a horribly-acted trite space opera. I saw _Phantom Menace_ and my opinion was unchanged except it also made me hate CGI itself for a while. I know people who are obsessed with Star Wars and it just makes me sad.

I love the David Lynch version of Dune. A lot of people don’t, but that’s a nigh-impossible book to film–especially if you’re doing a two-hour movie. Miniseries, maybe. A very \*long \*miniseries.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-everybody-else-likes-which-you-hate-and-vice-versa/639572/153 "2012-11-10T17:56:04Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I really disliked Inception though. I “got it” just fine, mind you. I really would have appreciated it more if they had just stuck with “Oceans 11 with dreams instead of a Casino” but then they had to throw in all the stuff with totems, which make less sense the more you think about them, and the plot with Mal which was competing for main plot privileges with the perfectly reasonable heist movie going on. I think it really needed to pick a focus: the Mal thing or the hesit thing, and trying to do both weakened the movie immensely. I didn’t want a **dumb** popcorn heist movie, as is the usual insinuation. I would have been thrilled to have a brilliant, well thought out, internally consistent heist movie in a cool universe. I would have even liked a philosophical exploration of reality, and lost life. What I’m not convinced about is that these two things mix. At all. Also, the totems STILL made no goddamned sense given the rules they presented.
> 
> On the flip side, I liked Shutter Island, which everyone else hated. Maybe I missed something obvious, but I thought it was left up in the air whether or not the main character was really insane or not – not the “obvious twist” everyone else talks about.

I saw _Shutter Island_ at the beginning of 2010 and \*Inception \*near the end of the year. As soon as Mal showed up in _Inception_, I said “Oh no, is this another Leonardo DiCaprio’s crazy wife movie?” (I liked \*Shutter Island \*much better–it was the #2 best movie I saw that year. #1 was _The Ghost Writer_.)

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