# Movies so good, they couldn't make them just once! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 24, 2002, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663 "2002-12-24T03:03:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/21 "2002-12-25T06:01:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Billy Rubin \* > **Dang. Maybe I was watching it on a black&white tv. I certainly remember it as black and white!!** It may not have been black, but it was definitely white. Many scenes had white backgrounds, and the color (or lack thereof) was used prominently throughout the film. Perhaps Michael Mann was trying to draw a contrast between the murky morality of serial killers and the normalcy of the real world. I think he was just showing off. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/22 "2002-12-25T06:42:34Z")
**Outland** was a sci-fi remake of **High Noon**. Not bad, but not even in the same league as the original. ---
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Sparticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@I\_am\_Sparticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_am_Sparticus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/23 "2002-12-25T07:15:16Z")
**The 39 Steps** and **The Man Who Knew Too Much.** Both made and then remade by Hitchcock. Classics for remaking: Mutiny on the Bounty Moby Dick Hunchback of Notre Dame Robin Hood Three Musketeers The Count of Monte Christo The Prisoner of Zenda ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/24 "2002-12-25T07:16:26Z")
Well, there was the poorly done, animated LOTR done a while back. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/25 "2002-12-25T07:36:18Z")
_Disraeli_ was made twice, in 1921 and 1929, with George Arliss playing the title character each time. The first film was a silent and the second had sound. Arliss won an Oscar for the second film. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/26 "2002-12-26T18:38:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Yojimbo became A Fistful of Dollars and then Last Man Standing. Also remade in Scandinavia as _Hrafninn flygur_ aka \* When the Raven Flies\* [http://www.imdb.com/Details?0087432](http://www.imdb.com/Details?0087432) (released in the USA under the title _Revenge of the Barbarians_:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/27 "2002-12-26T23:48:16Z")
_The Parent Trap_ _Romeo and Juliet_ _Othello_- I think ~Monica ---
**Author:** ![Flowerchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flowerchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flowerchild)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/28 "2002-12-26T23:57:08Z")
One that suprised me was that they made “the alegedly true story of the texas cheerleader murdering mom” twice. One was the funny one, and the other was a T.V. movie on lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/29 "2002-12-27T00:09:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Dangerous Liaisons was remade as Valmont and then was remade again as Cruel Intentions. Actually, Valmost was not a remake of Dangerous Liaisons. “One of the more underappreciated films of the past few decades, Valmont was a classic victim of bad timing. Based upon the 1782 French novel Les Liaisons Dangereuses by Choderlos de Laclos, Milos Forman’s film was released just one short year after Stephen Frears’ celebrated Dangerous Liaisons, an adaptation of the Christopher Hampton stage play that was itself based on the same novel. Arriving late in the game, Forman’s movie was labeled an inferior copy and was dismissed by both critics and audiences.” [http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-video\_5/valmont.html](http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-video_5/valmont.html) ---
**Author:** ![JudyGale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JudyGale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JudyGale)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2003, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/30 "2003-01-05T23:50:45Z")
How about “Thunderball” and “Never Say Never Again”. “Never” is an updated version of “Thunderball”, right down to the dialogues. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/31 "2003-01-06T01:33:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by scablet \* > \*\*The Great Gatsby - there has to be at least five versions of this, to various degrees of suckage. \*\* There have been three theatrical versions: a 1926 silent version, made from a stage adapation, and now lost; 1949 (with Alan Ladd and Betty Field), and 1974 (Robert Redford and Mia Farrow). Plus a 2001 version for television, with Mira Sorvino and Toby Stephens. Fitzgerald’s book is perhaps my favorite novel, and the 1974 was a fine adaptaion, IMHO. The 2001, on the other hand, was a disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/32 "2003-01-06T01:36:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Billy Rubin \* > **Still newer are the three versions of ‘Red Dragon’, one the original black and white called, IIRC, “Manhunter”, the made-for-TV version which capitalized on the popularity of the release of Silence of the Lambs, and the recently remade version with Anthony Hopkins.** There was no made-for-TV version of the novel _Red Dragon_. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/33 "2003-01-06T01:40:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \* > \*\ ***Outland** was a sci-fi remake of **High Noon**. Not bad, but not even in the same league as the original. \*\* No, _Outland_ was not a remake of _High Noon_. It was made from an original screenplay by director Peter Hyams. It shares a theme (the lone gunman) with _High Noon_, but that doesn’t make it a remake. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/34 "2003-01-06T01:43:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Julius Henry \* > \*_Three of the four versions of A Star is Born were all excellent – the first was called What Price Hollywood[/i_ Although _What Price Hollywood?_ has a similar plot to _A Star Is Born_, the latter is not a remake. If it was, Writers Guild rules would require screen credit for the authors of the earlier screenplay. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/35 "2003-01-06T03:04:54Z")
ABC-TV is about to add another one. Next month, they’re premiering a made-for-TV remake of _The Music Man_, with Matthew Broderick as Prof. Harold Hill. Now there’s a movie that was just crying out for a remake. The original casting was horribly misguided, and the performances were terrible. :rolleyes: I ask you, what corporate moron thought that a remake could top the Robert Preston version?! ---
**Author:** ![Wumpus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8c91f0/32.png) [@Wumpus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wumpus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/36 "2003-01-06T04:10:53Z")
Nitpick: the remake of The 39 Steps was _not_ by Hitchcock. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/37 "2003-01-06T06:24:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Glory \* > **Actually, Valmost was not a remake of Dangerous Liaisons. > …Arriving late in the game, Forman’s movie was labeled an inferior copy and was dismissed by both critics and audiences."** They were both good, but I liked _Valmont_ better than Dangerous Liasons. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/38 "2003-01-06T13:33:08Z")
There were a number of 1930’s movies remade in the '50’s as musicals. Off the top of my head: _The Philadelphia Story_ became _High Society_. _The Women_ became _The Opposite Sex_. _Bachelor Mother_ became _Bundle of Joy_. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/39 "2003-01-06T13:39:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Early Out \* > \*\*ABC-TV is about to add another one. Next month, they’re premiering a made-for-TV remake of _The Music Man_, with Matthew Broderick as Prof. Harold Hill. Now there’s a movie that was just crying out for a remake. The original casting was horribly misguided, and the performances were terrible. :rolleyes: > > I ask you, what corporate moron thought that a remake could top the Robert Preston version?! \*\* The Craig Bierko version did fine on Broadway. I assume that’s what they’re doing, and there’s no particular reason why they shouldn’t. Even in the original play, Harold Hill was later played by Eddie Albert and Bert Parks. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-so-good-they-couldnt-make-them-just-once/144663/40 "2003-01-06T14:34:39Z")
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