# Movies that are crap, but you like anyway **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 24, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521 "2007-02-24T17:22:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![2pelo\_honey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ecb155/32.png) [@2pelo\_honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2pelo_honey)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/101 "2007-02-26T21:06:34Z")
How about Broken Lizard’s Club Dread? The references and similiarity between Bill Paxton and Jimmy Buffett just cracked me up! “Son of a Son of a Bitch” and “Pinacoladaburg”…too funny. I’m also embarrassed about watching “Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle” more than once! ---
**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/102 "2007-02-26T21:13:39Z")
[QUOTE=DesertDog] That’s because the cons talk like cons. It would have the dialog bleeped to incomprehensibility. [/QUOTE] Yeah - that’s a good point. Hadn’t thought of that. People would think they were watching some bizarre version of _The Osbournes_. “\*What the \*bleep-bleep \*do you mean the _bleep-bleep-bleep_ train doesn’t \*[unitelligble] bleep-bleep _engineer!?!_” ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/103 "2007-02-26T21:21:43Z")
Mine is **Some Kind of Wonderful**. It’s just atrocious, but I cannot help flicking onto it on a Saturday afternoon inbetween college football/basketball games and watching the whole damned thing. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/104 "2007-02-26T21:22:32Z")
I forgot one - _Solarbabies_ ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/105 "2007-02-26T21:43:50Z")
I liked **Armageddon** along with it’s siblings **Con-Air** and **The Rock**. And while I also have the guilty pleasure of **Bring it On** it has to go hand in hand with **Drop Dead Gorgeous**. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/106 "2007-02-26T22:29:32Z")
I’ll chime in with _Hudson Hawk_ and _Flash Gordon_. Then I’ll add the SciFi stinker, _Starcrash_. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/107 "2007-02-26T22:47:23Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] I’m gonna give a couple that are really within the spirit of the OP. _Creator_ starring Peter O’Toole, Vincent Spano and a young Virginia Madsen who does nude scenes (schwing!), along with _Last American Virgin_, a great flick of the 80s titsploitation variety just because of the ending which is the opposite of what teen movies usually deliver. I just want to kick Karen, the character played by the smoking hot Diane Franklin (Who also has a couple nice nude scenes in the movie, schwing part 2!) right in the ass. Repeatedly. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I remember watching that. When the credits ran, the ending so surprised us that my friends and I thought for a moment that they’d mixed up the reels and left out part of the film. And after watching that and seeing her in Amityville 2 (not a movie that qualifies for the thread for me), we actively rooted for the guy with the shotgun. We’d gotten over it by the time we saw Better Off Dead (which probably does qualify). My contribution is a totally forgotten movie called _Hero at Large_. John Ritter, Anne Archer, and (Can you believe it?) Burt Convy! It totally fits in with my current need to watch and own every comic-book movie I can. Ritter is one of a troop of actors hired by Convy to portray a superhero known as Captain Avenger at movie theaters around NYC, schmoozing with the kids who come to the film. On his way home one night, still wearing his costume, he foils a holdup at his neighborhood grocery store. He likes the response in the papers the next day, and starts seeking out criminals in his spare time. ---
**Author:** ![Dunawake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dunawake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunawake)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/108 "2007-02-26T23:54:58Z")
[QUOTE=foxymoron] _Hudson Hawk_. Nearly everyone [who’s seen it, which is hardly anyone] says it’s terrible, but I find it highly entertaining. My husband likes it, too. That’s how I knew he was The One. [/QUOTE] Nothing is obscure on the SDMB, and I love that movie 😛 I think I actually have the Willis/Aiello rendition of “Swinging on a Star” somewhere in my music collection. ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/109 "2007-02-27T00:04:31Z")
[Beowulf](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120604/) with Christopher Lambert. Great fun, and such a disaster that only Lambert could take it seriously. The fact that he didn’t bust up laughing during this is proof of his acting ability, or something. “I must fight the evil to keep from becoming evil” I love it. ---
**Author:** ![Detritus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@Detritus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Detritus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/110 "2007-02-27T01:12:09Z")
**Dead Alive** - You’ve got a vicar going into combat against zombies, shouting “I kick arse for the Lord!” and a scene where a houseful of zombies get chewed up by our hero with a lawn mower. That’s class. **Beerfest** - Don’t ask me why. I thought it would be basically a two hour version of _The Man Show_ but it was much, much more fun. Fewer jugs, more steins. Amen to **Starship Troopers** , **Hudson Hawk** , and **Fifth Element**. Although I never thought **Fifth Element** was a _guilty_ pleasure. I always just thought it was good. ---
**Author:** ![Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Full_Metal_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/111 "2007-02-27T02:18:32Z")
OC and Stiggs, Directed by Robert Altman… Imagine a turd, studded with jewels instead of corn, and you basically have this movie in a nutshell. Based on a series of stories that appeared in National Lampoon, as that magazine went down the tubes, the movie was over written, over produced, and wound up being edited into near incomprehensability. Still, I love it… It is quirky, and strange, and “not” your typical summer teen movie (which is what it was “edited” into. It has a great selection of “B” stars and cameos, typical of Altman, the quirky audio of Altman, and the interwoven of Altman, but it should have been Alan Smithee’d… Another movie from 1979 is “Americathon” in which a future (year 2000) USA, now out of oil, holds a Telethon to pay its debt to the Middle east. If you can find either, watch em… strange, beautiful crap regards FML ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/112 "2007-02-27T02:51:19Z")
[QUOTE=Full Metal Lotus] Another movie from 1979 is “Americathon” in which a future (year 2000) USA, now out of oil, holds a Telethon to pay its debt to the Middle east. [/QUOTE] Well, if I recall correctly, the USA owes the Native Americans, who bailed out the US when it was in debt to the Middle East. And now the Natives have called their note home, so the US needs money to pay it. Great fun movie though–John Ritter as President Chet Roosevelt, good performances from Chief Dan George and Fred Willard, and typical performances from many, many ventriloquists. (You have to see the movie to understand this last part.) This was one of my favorites years ago–thanks for reminding me about it! ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/113 "2007-02-27T03:22:45Z")
I had a bad movie moment today. I was walking with my coworker and “The Hustle” was playing over the PA. I have to say, I love disco. And I did attempt to get every one to do The Hustle for the rest of the day–even though I have no idea how to do The Hustle. But I did make up a dance. So she tells me, “I just love Donna Summer. That song ‘Hot Stuff’. It’s so good” And I sing it and go have you seen that movie? It’s a dumb crappy movie with Dom DeLuise and Jerry Reed and some woman—Suzanne Pleshette? I know it played five hundred times one summer on cable and I laughed myself stupid I’d watch it right now if I could. It is a crap movie. And I remember laughing so hard at it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/114 "2007-02-27T03:30:46Z")
I agree that guilty pleasure is a better term than “crap movies” and I’ll add **Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead** to the list. But I won’t feel guilt for watching **Fifth Element** , **Manhunter** or **Galaxy Quest** ; these are _good_ movies. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/115 "2007-02-27T17:03:49Z")
My guiltiest pleasure has to be “Bring it On” though I don’t think it’s a bad movie. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/116 "2007-02-27T17:16:28Z")
I still love **The Craft**. Talk about a crap movie! ---
**Author:** ![UKCatGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a88e57/32.png) [@UKCatGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UKCatGirl)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/117 "2007-02-27T19:08:04Z")
**My Father the Hero**. It stars Gerard Depardieu and Katherine Heigl (now in Grey’s Anatomy) as his daughter. While on vacation in the Bahamas, she pretends that he is her boyfriend instead of her father to get the attention of some guy she meets on the island. Ridiculous and kind of icky? Absolutely, but it makes me laugh every single time. Someone mentioned **Crank** earlier, and I could not agree more. It was completely unbelievable and there was not a whole lot to the plot, but damn if that was not the shortest 85 minutes I’ve ever seen. Really, the action never stops, just escalates until the credits roll. Oh, and **Saltire** , **Hero at Large** is not entirely forgotten, both my mom and I love it! ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/118 "2007-02-27T19:15:12Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I still love **The Craft**. Talk about a crap movie! [/QUOTE] Darnit I like this one too, also **Fear** ---
**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/119 "2007-02-27T20:03:48Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] One thing that I notice about the films mentioned in this thread is that nearly all of them are comedies, horror movies, or action films. It appears to me that a lot of people here think that a comedy, horror, or action film (and other genre films) can’t be a great film. [/QUOTE] Actually, it seems to me that the films mentioned in this thread are of three different types: 1. poor films that have one or two redeeming qualities, but that are nevertheless sometimes fun to watch because of these qualities; 2. very poor films that don’t have much redeeming qualities, but that are inadvertently funny; 3. good to excellent movies that just aren’t intended to be highbrow, artsy films. This is the _Airplane!_, _Animal House_ (which I haven’t watched but really should), _Kung Pow_, _Orgazmo_ and _Evil Dead_ category. Yes, most of them are comedy, horror, action movies. Of these categories, the third one isn’t what I would call “crap movies I liked”, unless the film happens to be bad for some other reason. Being a slapstick comedy or monster horror movie (or whatever) doesn’t make a movie bad, it just makes it less likely to earn high critical approval (although I think that _Animal House_, among others, is actually quite highly considered). Movies in the second category might be called that, but I don’t think this is what the OP had in mind. When you’re laughing at a truly bad movie, the fact that _what you’re seeing wasn’t intended to be funny_ is important. So it means that the movie is simply bad art: it’s having the opposite effect of what the director wanted. The first category is more what I would call “crap movies I liked”. Movies in this category can’t really be called “good”, but at the same time there is something that they did that was right, since you liked them, and not only because they inadvertently made you laugh. I’m not enough of a cinephile to have examples of this kind of movie myself, sorry. On the other hand, I will echo some people’s comments that _The Fifth Element_ is in my mind a good movie. It’s not one of my favourites, but I would watch it again. I know that it’s generally considered bad (didn’t learn it here), but I don’t really see why. And I see that several other people like it too. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521/120 "2007-02-27T20:04:22Z")
Not been mentioned yet - **Dukes of Hazzard** - from the atlanta escape onwards is the pure definition of ‘guilty pleaure’… before the escape, I lose IQ points watching it. Gotta love the Highlander affect on the Bow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-crap-but-you-like-anyway/393521.md?page=7)